Re: [tied] names for HORSE

Ok, but remember the roots is *k'opH- (with metathesis k'oHpo-, so Satem languages like Slavic must have *sop-. So, kopyto must be a loan from some kentum language.

If caballus is Celtic and related to *k'opH-, I think it's more plausible a compound *k'opHo-bolo- or alike.

It's not impossible to use the same root for a castrated animal and a female. Remember English cow and Portuguese boi (<Latin bo:s) "castrated ox".

kobyla < *kobhu:- ? or kobhaxw- ?

Talking abour horse names there's also the mystery of name HIPPOS. The "normal" word must have been *EPOS

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From: Piotr Gasiorowski

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 11:36 AM

Subject: Re: [tied] names for HORSE

Of course, the meaning 'castrated' doesn't matches that of Slavic *kobyla, which is always 'mare'. It's very likely somehow related to caballus (and thus ultimately to the Celtic word, see Chris's comments), though the details are far from clear (Slavic *y < *u:). The *komni- < *kobni- etymology for *konjI- is accepted by some Slavicists (one could adduce archaic Polish komunik ~ komonik 'a troop of riders'), though it's all rather conjectural and not uncontradicted. One should also consider possible links with Slavic *kopyto 'hoof' and *kopati 'kick, dig', which doubtless represent the native development of PIE *kap(H)-.

Piotr

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From: João Simões Lopes Filho

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Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:08 AM

Subject: [tied] names for HORSE

According to "Dictionary of Selected Synonyms in the principal IE languages" (C.D.Duck)

Latin caballus may mean "castrated"

cf.

Grk kabe:los "castrated"

Slavic kobila or kobyla "mare"

note: (i) = short i (u) = short u

ChSlav konj(i) < *komniyo- cf. Russian komon' VPruss camnet Lit kumelys (foal), kumele (mare)

*komnijo < *kobniyo- ?