Re: [tied] Artemis and the Bear (long)

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 4389
Date: 2000-10-16

> On the other periphery of IE, Basque borrowed <hartz> "bear" from
> Celtic *artos.

I agree it's sure that hartz < artos. But why would the Basques borrow this
word from Celtic if the bear exists in Spain. Any taboo? Was there any other
Basque word (native) for "bear"?

Joao SL
Rio

----- Original Message -----
From: Miguel Carrasquer Vidal <mcv@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 7:44 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Artemis and the Bear (long)


> Piotr wrote:
>
> >And don't forget Hittite hartaggas/hartkas. The protoform is actually
> >*xrtkos with a nil-grade initial syllable, visible in the Latin and
> >Sanskrit forms. Another likely cognate is Lithuanian irs^tva 'bear's
lair'.
>
> Interesting. What's the origin of the /-va/: a suffix?
>
> I ask because a /w/ also appears in the Kartvelian borrowing (Alexis
> Manaster-Ramer, p.c.) *das^tw- "bear", which could well be from IE
> *r.k^t-os (just like we have *ok^th3- "8" --> PK *os^txw- "4").
>
> On the other periphery of IE, Basque borrowed <hartz> "bear" from
> Celtic *artos.
>
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