Re: [tied] Re: Religion

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 3959
Date: 2000-09-21

Right, but *penkwe> kwenkwe > Irish coic and Welsh pimp. Why co:ic instead
of ce:c? o: < u+e?
----- Original Message -----
From: Christopher Gwinn <sonno3@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: Religion


>
>
> > Other possibility is that Dian cecht was the "Irishized" form of a
> > non-Irish, pre-Celtic name.
>
> I doubt it - it looks perfectly Celtic to me.
>
> > I even don't understand clearly the phonetical changes in Irish. The
> Celtic
> > *q > Irish c, or Celtic *q > Irish c-w- (cf. coic "five"). Does *q
develop
> a
> > u-glide that modifies following vowel?
> > Joao SL
>
> PIE *-kw- gives Common Celtic *-kw- which gives (using Latin orthography)
> Goidelic -qu-, Celtiberian -qu- / -cu-, Gallo-Lepontic -p-, and
> Brythonic -p-.
>
> Goidelic -qu- develops into Irish c- / -cc- / -ch
> Brythonic -p- gives Welsh p- / -b- / -b
>
> Note: PIE *-kw- is partially retained in Gaulish in the ligatures -c "and"
> (from PIE *-kwe "and"), -ac "and" (PIE *at[e]-kwe), etic "in addition"
> (*eti-kwe). This does not occurr in Lepontic, which has -pe (*-kwe)
>
> SO:
> PIE: *ekwos "horse"
> Common Celtic *ekwos
> Goidelic *equos - Irish ech
> Celtiberian equos
> Gaulish epos
> Brythonic epos - Welsh eb(ol) ["pony"]
>
> -C. Gwinn
>
>
>