Re: [tied] Some Ideas for Nostratic Mythology... 2) Earth was creat

This legends have not necessarily to be fitted in Nostratic mythology. I use
Nostratic because it's usually considered to be the ancestor of PIE. It can
be any other people older than PIE. Personally, I think a legend of birds
picking mud from sea bottom, is more likely to be from islanders.

Joao SL
Rio

----- Original Message -----
From: Glen Gordon <glengordon01@...>
To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:04 AM
Subject: Re: [tied] Some Ideas for Nostratic Mythology... 2) Earth was
created by Bird-Gods


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>
> Joao:
> >THEME TWO: EARTH WAS CREATED
> >Abstract: In the beginning only existed a primordial ocean. But birds (or
> >bird-gods) picked mud from the bottom of sea and created Earth;
>gathering
> >dry land.
>
> I've heard this version of the tale, yes. It's prevalent amongst some
> Uralic- or Altaic-speaking peoples so I've read.
>
> >Sources:
> >Siberia : bird-gods picking mud and creating Earth.
> >Israel : The dove brought a olive branch to Noah.
> >India : Varaha (Ok, a Boar is not a bird, but this entity saves the
>earth
> >from Flood)
> >Egypt: Thoth as creator?
> >Greece: During the Deukalion Flood, the people of Geraneia was saved >by
> >following the cranes.
>
> You are not taking heed in the concepts I'm putting forth in this
> comparative mythology. If I'm correct about a SemitoEuropoid belief system
> developing in Western Anatolia around 7000 BCE or so, it inevitably stands
> to reason that this belief system can spread quite far over a span of 9000
> years into the locations you mention!
>
> I feel that these myths are not original to their respective areas.
Another
> "bird" creation myth exists among Inuktitut peoples too but this cannot
> ultimately be a native view. All these related myths can better be
explained
> as originating out of W Anatolia at 7000 BCE spreading into the IE
homeland
> by 5500 BCE, and finally spreading far into NorthEast Asia by about
> 3000-2000 BCE, or at least before the EskAleut peoples left for North
> America whenever that may precisely be dated.
>
> As far as I'm concerned, a succesful theory on a _Nostratic_ mythology is
> still remotely far away. Just the thought of it makes my head spin. We
have
> better hope with the linguistics end of things first. :)
>
> - gLeN
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