Re: [tied] Re: Religion

Me, then John, bicker back and forth :)

>>... Then I take it that you view Catal Huyuk as a _patriarchal_
>>site?
>
>No way. The Goddess image found by Mellaart suggests a "partnership"
>society with matrifocal leanings.

Good man.

>Not just Old European Glen. The classic Greeks saw female
>worshipping cultures were strongest in Anatolia, [...]

Right, Western Anatolia was the first epicenter of religious exchange as
I've said.

>[...] and there is a strong tradition extending back throughout the >Middle
>East almost to Natufian times, with statues of the naked >goddess (under
>100's of different names) being unearthed throughout >Syria and Palestine
>to Roman times.

Exactly, this is the Semitoid cultural sphere. The Early Semitish took Old
European religious views to heart and influenced their neighbouring cousins,
the Semitic. Semitish and Semitic, mind you, were mutually intelligible
dialects during the first "epicenter" (They were only seperated by a
millenium or so) and so one would expect cultural exchange still going on
between the Semitish and the Semitic up to maybe around 7000 BCE.

John:

>The association of the heavens with a Bull is linked to Sumerian
>astrology. With the precession of the equinoxes, their calendar
>began with the sun in Taurus (we are approaching the Age of Aquarius
>by comparison).

Um, John. You're not thinking rationally. You say the bull is derived from
Sumerian astrology and its Taurus constellation but how can one name the
constellation as "Taurus" without some abstract mythological principle
behind it to begin with?? Are you feeling alright?

>It was the killing of the Wild Bull of Heaven - when
>Taurus disappears into the rising sun (The Bull = Husband of
>Erishkigal the Sumerian God of the Underworld) that was the "crime"
>that Enkidu was punished for.

Again, why is Erishkigal associated with the bull in the first place??
You're dancing around in a circle serving as an entertaining distraction, to
say the least. Your points are erratic and circular.

- gLeN


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