Re: [tied] Re: Religion

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 3642
Date: 2000-09-13

OK, that's my error. Ouranos didnt bind the Titans litterally, but he kept
them in the womb of Gaia.

Joao SL
Rio
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From: John Croft <jdcroft@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 3:10 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: Religion


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> Joao wrote
> > >1) Dumezil considered Varuna from *WER- "to bind". Indeed Varuna
> was a
> > > >Binder". Indeed, Ouranos "bind" his children, the Titans.
>
> Joao whoa!
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> It wasn't Uranus that bound the Titans, but Zeus. Uranus bound the
> Cyclops to Tartarus and the Titans, prompted by Gaia and led by
> Chronos (her youngest son), rebelled against and castrated their
> father. The blood of Uranus falling upon the Earth, gave birth to
> the three Erinnyes - Alecto, Tisiphone and Megaera, the furies who
> avenge the crimes of purjury and matricide.
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> The Titans freed the Cyclops, and elected Chronos as their ruler, god
> of the seventh day. He married his sister Rhea, and promptly bound
> the Cyclops, together with the Hundred Handed Ones, back into
> Tartarus.
>
> This myth of the castration seems to have derived from the Luwians if
> not the Hittites. The Hittite Kummarbi bit off the genitals of the
> old Sumerian Sky God (Anu), swallowing some of his seed. The rest
> was spat out, to rest on Mount Kansura, where it grew into a
> goddess. Kummarbi gave birth to the Hittite Goddess of Love, as a
> result of having swallowed some of the seed. Eventually Ea was
> required to operate on Kummarbi to allow the Goddess to escape. The
> castration continued down to Roman times, in which the priests of
> Kubele (Cybele) were ritually castrated via a heiros-gamos (sacred
> marriage) to bring about a spiritual identification with the
> castrated god.
>
> This belief in which a woman was drawn forth from a man is another
> old mythic Middle Eastern element. Athene was drawn forth from the
> head of Zeus, Kumarbi has a child drawn from his thigh, as Dionysus
> was born from Zeus. Eve was drawn from Adam's rib. These all seem
> cases that were hatched at about the time that atriarchal "dominator"
> cultures were replacing the earlier Matrifcal "partnership" cultures
> (to use Riane Eisler's terminology).
>
> The knife used in the castration deed also had a further history. It
> was used to slay Ullikummi (the Hittite Leviathan, Kummarbi's son)
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