Re: [tied] Old Europe & the IEs.

From: Rex H. McTyeire
Message: 3528
Date: 2000-09-02

For Mark and Steve: Re Oltenia
You are both right.  But the Wallachian reference is no longer necessary.
IE  Oltenia still exists, but significantly predates Wallachia, which no longer exists, even as a local regional expression.  It was a temporary political compromise.  In several political iterations Wallachia alternately encompassed and simply bordered it (with Oltenia sandwiched between Banat and Wallachia.)  
 
Romania claims 10 historical provinces, 9 with pre Roman, and pre Dacian state history:
 
Crisana 
Marmures (NE of Transylvania, but never fell to Hungarians)
Bucovina 
Moldova  (Moldavia..Costoboc country)
Bessarabia (Name much later..After Bessarab, formerly part of Moldavia)
Dobrodgea
Transylvania
Banat  (Romanian, but was a Hungarian "Voivodat" for a while)
Oltenia
Muntenia  (the general center of the vacillating later Wallachia)
  
All ten still exist as regions in name except Bessarabia, which elected to
be independent, and is now the country of Moldova.  There is no longer any application of Wallachia..Bucharest is simply in Muntenia. Moldavians in Romania recognize ethnic and linguistic links to Moldova..where Russian is common due to the Czar's "protection" of Bessarabia from the Ottomans..long before WWII.  But the romaneste spoken there (per my Moldavian girlfriend..I haven't been yet) is a radical dialect and "may" have
more Thraco-Dacian base..less latin.
 
La Revedere;
Rex H. McTyeire
Bucharest, Romania
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