Re: [tied]

From: João Simões Lopes Filho
Message: 3455
Date: 2000-08-29

OE eoten = ON jötunn < *etunaz < *ed-nos "The Eaters", "the man-eating Giants"
 
Joao SL
Rio
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From: Piotr Gasiorowski
To: cybalist@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [tied]

 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:25 AM
Subject: Re: [tied]

Sorry, I sent an incomplete response. I only said that Göteborg, Gotland etc. are possibly connected etymologically with the name of the Goths. Here's the supplement.
 
"Jutes" and "Jutland" are NOT connected with the *g(a)ut- names. The OE word was E:otas (Eutii in very early Frankish sources, Iotar in Old Icelandic, older Swedish Jydar/Jutar 'Danes') < *iut-o:s, as if from Pre-Germanic **eud-. Amateurish attempts are often made to connect the name with OE eoten (Norse jötunn) 'giant', but the two are evidently false friends (not because the Jutes weren't tall enough, but because there are grave phonological obstacles).
 
Piotr
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 2:51 AM
Subject: Re: [tied]

It's usually assumed that *gauta- and *gut-o:n- contain the same root. The "Geats" (Geatas = Norse Gautar) of Beowulf were a Swedish people.
 
Piotr
 


Also, could the Jutes have any connection with Goths? I only ask this on the
basis of the modern Swedish pronunciation of Goteborg, usually rendered
Gothenburg in English.