Re: [tied] Athene

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From: Guillaume JACQUES

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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:45 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Digest Number 124

Guillaume pisze: En grec d'avant l'ere chretienne, il me semble que la palatalisation des occlusive ne s'etait pas encore passe. Il y a suffisemment de preuve venue de transcriptions en Latin par ex. En tous cas, En grec meme on a suffisemment de preuve qu'il y avait bien une aspiration : la loi de Grassman, les crases du type kata + hoios -> kath hoiOn. Ce que dit John n'est pas rejetable absolument meme si c'est fortement douteux : mais ca a au moins l'avantage d'exister.

 

 

 

Drogi Guillaume,

 

Masz w zasadzie racje, ale:

 

(1) Stop + aspirate contraction, whether in simple sandhi (ouk he:dus > oukHe:dus) or in crasis (ta himatia > tHaimatia), normally took place phrase-internally between a proclitic and the following word, and of course in compound verbs and words derived from them (ap-histe:mi > apHiste:mi). I don't think this kind of assimilation operated in ordinary compounds (leuko- + hippos > Leukippos), or at least I can't think of any examples to falsify this belief.

 

(2) I wonder if Anatolian <h> would have been reflected as [h] in Greek. I'm not insisting that it wouldn't, but again I can't think of a precedent. Out habitual transliteration is potentially confusing. If the Ahhiyawa people < Akhaiwoi, then Hittite <h>, pronounced as a velar/uvular fricative [x], may have been closer acoustically to aspirated [kH] than to glottal [h] (note the use of [k] as a rough English substitute for German or Gaelic [x], as in Bach or loch). Are there any h-initial Greek loans to support the equation Anatolian hana- = Greek ha:na:?

 

Piotr