Re: Gimbutas.

From: John Croft
Message: 3105
Date: 2000-08-13

Marc

Breifly late at night

To my
> >It could. C-S believed that it showed a "demic movement" not a
> >copying of technology by people who did not move at all.
>
> "it" = his first component?

Yup!
> >Thus I wrote
> >> >What does this mean? The most parsimonious explanation is that
> >> >there were two waves out of Africa. The first, the early one,
> >> >shown most by Sardinians but with minor echoes in the Basques
and
> >> >Caucasians, coming out 40,000 years ago with the Upper
Paleolithic
> >> >Peoples (Aurignacians and Gravetian cultures).

Mark asked
> Aurignacian evolved into Gravettian in Europe you mean?

Yes!
> And they probably colonized Europe from E to W? (cf. late
> neandertals in Iberia)
>
> Where is Bacho Kiro in Bulgaria? (couldn't find it in my atlas)

I'll dig out the coordinates and get them to you.

Regarding dog domestication
> So anatomically it's mesolithic, though genetically dog & wolf DNA
> seems to have split more than 100 ka. At first dogs & wolves were
no
> doubt indistinguishable anatomically.

The 100 ka split has been recently questioned. It seems that 100ka
was the date of the split of the extinct Middle Eastern wolves from
the Eurasian wolf.

> John, is the European late Paleolithicum believed to be an
> indigenous evolution? or did the Solutrean or Magdalenian got
> foreign influences? (your
> second wave into Europe? Ibero-Maurasian?)

It is generally assumed that Magdalenian was indigenous. The
existence of the Solutrean assemblage as a separate technology has
been recently called into doubt.

John