From: Manuel Rosario
Message: 2212
Date: 2000-04-26
>From: "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...>________________________________________________________________________
>Reply-To: cybalist@egroups.com
>To: <cybalist@egroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [cybalist] Re: Easter
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:36:45 +0200
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dennis Poulter
> To: cybalist@egroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 6:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [cybalist] Re: Easter
>
>
> Thanks, Denis.
>
> Yu're right, the aspiration of medial -rr- was automatic, even if not
>marked in the spelling, so the Latin form is simply a Latin spelling of
>Attic Greek /turrEnos/ (phonetically with a voiceless [r]). As for the
>retention of /rs/, older forms with /rs/ and younger ones with /rr/ can
>both be found even in Attic (e.g. dersis 'flaying' : derris 'skin used as
>clothing'), and /rs/ is normal in Homeric Greek and in Ionic, Aeolic and
>Cretan dialects. The sequence was traeted in a special way in sigmatic
>aorists, but even there Homer often has /rs/.
>
>
> Thanks Piotr for your post. I've checked on this some more, and this is
>what I've found.
> /rs/ can either be maintained, or develop into /rr/ (Attic, Lesbian) or
>/lengthened vowel + r/.
> Leonard Palmer, in The Greek Language, states : "According to the
>grammarians, initial /r/ was aspirated, as was the second /r/ in the medial
>cluster /-rr-/..."
> This would provide the /h/ of the Latin "Tyrrhenus", which is otherwise
>unexplainable.
> So, I was wrong to attribute the /h/ of Tyrrhenus to Greek /s > h/, but
>it still seems to be a Greek phenomenon rather than Latin.
> So, while Herodotos used /tursEno-/ exclusively, the Latin form would be
>borrowed from a dialect variant /turREno-/ (R=aspirated /r/).
>
> Regards
> Dennis
>