John: I don't see Ubaid as synonymous with Sumerian. Rather I see Ubaid
as a development of the pre-Sumerian substratum peoples.
Gerry: OK. So Ubaid is pre-Sumerian.
John: Extending the cultural realm down the Persian gulf brought them
into contact with the Bahreini aboriginals (Sumerians), who subsequently
migrated northwards, settling first at Eridu, but hardly getting further
north than Kish.
Gerry: And Bahreini aboriginals are the Sumerians. Absolutely
fascinating! And it was the Sumerians who migrated north to Eridu and
Kish.
John: As for when the nomads, (probably Semites), they probably also
penetrated Mesopotamia in the north too (where they were to emerge as
Akkadians). Whether they "pushed" the Sumerians out of Dilmun, or the
Sumerians had decamped earlier (as a result of increasing dessication
of the Arabian mainland), I think is too close to call... Perhaps a
mixture of both.
Gerry: I knew the Akkadians were Semitic. What does the archaeological
evidence show for displacement in Dilmun? Was there warfare or not?
> John: Thus there was a greater distance between the Bahreini Sumerians
> and the Elamite-Dravidian dialect chain, stretching from the Zagros to
> the Indus and possibly beyond.
>
> Gerry: Hmmmm. We're now talking language rather than people?
Gerry - I suspect the answer to this is "both".
> Gerry: YES. Thank you. Do you have more?
John: Certainly more on a proposed Dilmun/Bahreini origin of the
Sumerians - yes. I'll send more on later if you want.
Gerry: Thank you. I'd love to see it.
Cheers,
g
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Gerald Reinhart
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