From: Gerry Reinhart-Waller
Message: 1420
Date: 2000-02-07
>Gerry: Your idea that a more abstract languge develops out of a simpler
> >Perhaps language may be polygenetic. But what reasons do you think
> >account for this simultaneous emergence?
>
> I've been supplying this answer for a while now. The concept of "language
> abstraction" where a new, more abstract form of language continually
> develops out of a simpler one like gesture/sign to vocal. Hope people might
> accept it or violently deny with a good reason so that I can finally stop
> propogate the myth and repeating myself to no avail.
>
> >In Stephen Hawking's words: the universe always wasOf course, by fully accepting and
> >and always will be. It's similar to a theologic focus only without a
> >god. If for no other reason, this viewpoint has been around since >the
> >beginnings of mankind. Any comments Piotr? Or any from others >who wish
> >to speculate?
>
> Of course, I'm always game. :)
>
> You see, Gerry. Existence is non-existence and you are correct - even
> ancient man realised this. The Australian aborigines think of a "dream time"
> whereas Buddhists mask it with the concept of "Nirvana" but in the end, we
> are all one in the primordial ooze and our lives are an illusion.
>
> How do you say with such authority, you ask? Well, afterall, I did create
> the universe... and so did everyone that acknowledges herself/himself as
> conscious. The universe is defined as EVERYTHING. So for the universe to
> have been created, time must have been created too. However, you can't start
> the act of creation if there is no time, silly! Second, if we then finally
> accept that the universe was eternal, that would mean that it was never
> created. So... doesn't that mean that the universe doesn't exist? How can
> something exist if it never had a start to its existence?
>
> The only way to escape the madness of these creation-vs-eternal scenarios is
> to accept that existence is non-existence and that neither is the sole state
> of the universe or of anything in it.
> UNDERSTANDING such a concept would mean that you must throw away all want ofActually Glen your universe sounds bizarre. Stick to baking apple pies
> anything because at this point, any logic ceases to have any meaning. One,
> in effect, slips back into the serene coma state of Nirvana, or if one
> prefers, the Dream Time. Call it what you will.
>
> Sweet dreams everybody. One day, I'll invite you all to my universe for free
> drinks and a free lunch. I'll make apple pie from scratch - literally. It's
> just I still don't have the recipe for pions yet and I can never stop my
> universe from imploding, but I'll work on it.
>
> - gLeN
>
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