Re: ?kooks?

From: Adrian
Message: 628
Date: 1999-12-17

Dear Mihai

Agree in toto, just that this one came in the same lot as some cybalists
posts and rather funny to be made aware of the shift in attitude. There's
similar shifts of attitude or ideas found in history too but etymology seems
not to notice, which puzzles me. Some are found from the history of ideas,
others elsewhere as in that Tantric Gorakh one. Fi I'd like to know quite
when and where AVE Eve changed from being the Mother of all living into
merely the mother of god, under the same name. Another one is Chinese Kuan
Jin, or however it's spelled. What is she doing there when China appears to
have only familial ancestors and barely what one could call gods. And the
list where I found this link did not make clear it was only Indo European,
at Linguist.org.

Correct me if wrong but if only the form of the word is studied here I am
not really that interested. I had the same with being taught Literature, the
themes and motifs are age old and worldwide, some the doings of the gods
whose names vary widely. We were trained to only critique the excellence
thereof, and the distinction between Hi and Lo art arrived somewhere in
Italy along with Commedia de'l Arte. And that heralds also the development
of theatres as buildings where before we had jongleurs and wandering troupes
in carts, as did Shakespeare with every plague bout in London. Not to
ignore religious drama. If one is not aware of this connections hardly show
up. The Hi & Lo is now coming apart again, or rather merging some. I don't
really care much about whether Ufos elves and all that are real or exist as
I am more into what us hoomongs can, will and do believe. To which Internet
itself is a most delightful addition to an earlier diet of textbooks. One
does not find this either in Sociology, where one would expect at least
some. In Sociology one is given the pickled goods in whatever happens to be
the latest theory out, with here and there some survivals of Pavlov. The
current revival of many antique notions about the world fascinates me and to
taxonomise it as hallucinations, kooks, and all that does not really deal
with the issues. Yet merely mention it and one is put in that category,
hmmm??? To what degree do things like that affect the loss and gain of words
in a society? One quaintly wonders how all such changes come about.
Usually, judging by whoever became Chairman of the next presidium, it sort
of popped up out of exactly the kooky, unexamined woodwork. SF began as
"pulp" and is now mainstream. This is nearly pure Chaos Theory in action.
What governs 'order"? It seems beliefs and assumptions so where do they come
and go from? One should not mention this in a class on Philosophy either. So
where does it 'live"? If, that is, it has to be time and space located. One
wonders where some future etymologist is going to park "Close Encounters of
the third kind" pop nearly overnight. In sum I'm curious about how this
"what's obvious to everybody" comes about. It could all belong to a
feasible history of power games and not just social forces. I have not
search engined that particular label but doubt to find it discussed in a
cool manner. How fi would one make a connection between networking and the
spider goddess, yet it uses the same metaphor.

Adrian.

And BTW it is no longer a flat spin but a spiral one I gather. :-) if one
wants to be politically kosher.

Subject: [cybalist] Re: ?kooks?


> Dear Adrian,
>
> This list is about Indo European studies, isn't it? :-) . I myself I'm not
a
> scholar in linguistics (I'm quite good in semiotics and imagology). I'm
not
> sending messages to the list because I'm here in order to learn more about
the
> "master topics" of the list.
>
> I also happen to be familiar to some "information theories" that include
even
> "New Age" points of view (such as Bohm's, of course). Therefore I would
like to
> take a look to the article below:
>
> Beyond reality -- Watching information at play in the quantum world is
throwing
> physicists into a flat spin,
> (by Mark Buchanan -- From New Scientist, 14 March 1998). You'll find the
article
> at:
> http://www.newscientist.com/ns/980314/features1.html
>
> I should also want to ask you not to elaborate further in the field of
> "on-the-edge" physics on this list -- it (i.e. this list) has a completely
> different coverage ?
>
> Sincerely yours,
> Mihai D. Popescu -- Romania
>
> Adrian wrote:
>
> > These "kooks", happen to be qualified scientists" Hope it is not too
> > shocking.
> >
> > Adrian
> >
> > Apologies for the length of this letter but there is something I'd like
to
> > say about this particular topic of human levitation and other
supernatural
> > feats -having first experienced full-blown Kundalini enlightenment in
1993,
> > which was my initiation into many so-called "paranormal" experiences
> > thereafter:
> > Mark Dunn and I are working on a theory of consciousness. This theory is
> > based on our own experiences which are similar and which can explain
such
> > feats as telekinesis, levitation - also OBEs, NDE's, RV etc. Jhan Davis
has
> > recently joined us in this theory - as he has had similar experiences of
his
> > own and therefore similar insights.
> >
> > Many physicists have conditioned themselves to have their noses so
deeply
> > immersed within (...)
> >
> > Kindest Regards,
> >
> > Gary Osborn
> >
>
>
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