Re: Prehistoric Ethnogenic Processes

>> How come the first level does not have "day" or "man"?

>I don't want to dispute with you about concrete words. I am working with

groups of words. I can send you the whole my list of common Nostranic words.
But about "day" I can say further. 1. Illich-Svitych or I could omit
this word. 2. The sense of this word can be changed to "light", "morning"
etc. 3. The IE word for "day" can be developed from "light", "sun" etc.

>> >> 2) Do you suppose Uralic, IE, Altaic, Sem-Ham., Kartvelian & Dravidian

all split at the same moment? or do you only suggest these peoples were in
close contact at some time?

>> > I think that Uralic, IE, Altaic, Sem-Ham., Kartvelian & Dravidian were

splitting from the common languages during certain long time when speakers
of these languages were living on the same territory with geographic
borders. But separate groups of these speakers could leave this territory in
different time.

>> Earlier leaving would confuse the geographical implications, wouldn't it?

If the IEs left earlier, it would seem as if they had lived farther away
(less words in common with the other languages), don't you think? Perhaps
the 6 groups split a lot earlier, were perhaps not even in close contact,
but learnt to know only each other's goods (cows, technologies, barley,
wool, cords etc.) & terms for these goods?

>One can think about the time of splitting so and so. I am sure only in the

graphic model of relationship of Nostratic languages. I can say that IEs
left their origin earlier as Altaic and Uralic people. No more.


Because they have less words in common with Sem-Ham. than Altaic & Uralic
have? But you already eplained that by putting them further away
geographically.

>> >> Before I had read your "Introduction" I had thought that the early IEs

had borrowed agricultural terms form Sem-Ham.

>> >Yes, you have right. A some branch of Sem-Ham come through Anatoly and

Balkans to South Ukraine and founded here Tripolje culture. They had a
contact with IEs here.

>> Do you have evidence for that?

>Yes, I have. I have lexical correspondences between modern Jewish and

modern Chuvash. The Old Chuvaches (Bulharians) lived near IE tribes and
Tripolje culture bearers.

>>(It's believed that there has been a giant flood coming from the

Meditteranean that opened the Bosporus & filled the Black Sea Basin (in the
5th millennium or so --I don't recall it well, but I believe Mark may know).
Before that date there was no Black Sea at all.)

>It is known among archaelogists that Tripolje culture come to the right

banks of the river Dniepr from Balcans ("Cucuteni culture"). It was at the
end of IV millenium or at the begin of III millenium B.C.

>> >> 4) Greek & Germanic are in the centre of your IE homeland. Could this

be due (only?) to the fact that these languages had the largest number of
words used in your analysis? Is this a "real" homeland, or were these IE
languages only in close contact at that time?

>I can say some more to that. Special features of the graphi-analytical

method are so that we can remove one or two languges from the model without
breach of its structure. Sorry I have no time now. I will answer later.
Valentyn.

Thanks --Marc