Re: Prehistoric Ethnogenic Processes

From: Piotr Gasiorowski
Message: 241
Date: 1999-11-12

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From: Valentyn Stetsjuk
To: cybalist@egroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 9:36 AM
Subject: [cybalist] Re: Prehistoric Ethnogenic Processes


Marc Verhaegen wrote:
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> >>(Is your Sem-Ham. is only a small part of Afro-Asiatic?)
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> >I took prepared data of Illich-Svitych.
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> Then you use it as a synomym of A-A?

Illich Svitych used term "Semitic-Hamitic". I follow after him.


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A clarification is evidently in order here. Illich-Svitych was killed
in a street accident in1966; much of his opus was published
posthumously by his collaborators and followers, which is why
you find things like "Illich-Svitych (1984)" in bibliographies.
Greenberg's redefinition of (enlarged) Hamito-Semitic as
Afroasiatic was only beginning to win wider acceptance at the
time of Illich-Svitych's death; quite naturally, the latter used the
term "H-S" in its now utdated meaning. Unfortunately, many
Nostraticists treat Illich-Svitych's works as gospel despite
the thirty-odd years' gap during which much progress has
been achieved within the individual families; e.g. Björn Collinder's
Uralic etymologies are still followed by Nostraticists BECAUSE
Illich-Svitych worked with them, though the much improved
reconstructions of Sammallahti and Rédei are now available
and are treated as standard by Uralicists.

Piotr