[tied] Re: Old English "a-spylian"

From: tgpedersen
Message: 17513
Date: 2003-01-11

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski
<piotr.gasiorowski@...> wrote:
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> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2003 11:50 AM
> Subject: [tied] Re: Old English "a-spylian"
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> > I've seen it argued the <ek> (not <ik>) proved it's North
Germanic. Of course the whole question is infected.
>
> The problem is that we have no unambiguously West Germanic texts to
compare from that early period, so we don't know if <ek(a)> is
diagnostically North Germanic. In early Runic (5th-7th centuries)
inscriptions from Jutland <ek(a)> is the most common form, but <ik>
can be found as well.
>
>
> > East North Germanic (in this case island Danish, Swedish and
Southern and Eastern Germanic) has <jeg>/<jag>, West North Germanic
<eg>, Jutland <a>. Where does the "automatic enter into this?. I
thought perhaps this had to do with preserved -a in 1st. sg. (elided
early in Jutland), such that in the frequent <adv>VSO sentences you'd
have /-a eg/ > /a jeg/, ...
>
> What do you mean by "Southern and Eastern Germanic"?
Error: Should have been "Southern and Eastern Norwegian"


I'm not sure about Jutland,

Take my word for it. It's one of the standard stage devices for
characterising the provincial Jutlander.


but the rest is as it should be. The breaking of *e (which has
nothing to do with the Slavic glide insertion) often failed on the
western fringe of North Germanic in words that were affected in the
eastern dialects. Old Icelandic <e> often corresponds to Old Swedish
<iä> in the breaking environment. Thus, PNGmc. *eba- > OIc. ef ~ OSw.
iäf 'doubt', PNGmc. *feta- > OIc. fet ~ OSw. fiät 'step'. Likewise,
*eka > OIc. ek (> ég) ~ iäk (> jag, jeg).
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> Piotr

As far as I recall, "breaking" proper is -el- > -jel-, -er- > -jer-.
It's not consistent in East North Germanic, cf Da. bjerg, Sw. berg.
Almost all Danish dialects have e: > í& (if with stød: -i?&-)

Torsten