[tied] Re: the surname LOPES/LOPEZ : name LOPO/LOPE : Latin, Celtic

--- In cybalist@..., Miguel Carrasquer <mcv@...> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Oct 2002 22:12:38 -0000, "Richard Wordingham"
> <richard.wordingham@...> wrote:
>
> >'Lope' is not the only Spanish name ending in '-e' when one would
> >expect '-o'. 'Felipe' (ultimately from Greek Philippos) is

another

> >example. Is it possible that the '-e' is actually a survival of

the

> >vocative ending?
>
> Good idea. Alas, what little information I have on old Castilian

onomastics

> (mainly an article "La apócope de la vocal en castellano antiguo",

by Rafael

> Lapesa, 1951) tells a different story. It is well known that in

Old Castilian

> documents final -e was apocopated in far more cases than in modern

Spanish (e.g.

> prinçep, noch, cort, present, romanz). In some cases even -o was

deleted,

> especially in proper names, and especially in the combination name

+ patronymic.

> A form like Hernán (< Fernando) is a good example that has

survived. This also

> solves the mistery of the /p/ in Lope. The name was Lobo,

apocopated to Lob

> (e.g. an attested form Lob Diez). In final position, the

distinction between -b

> and -p was neutralized, and we have many attested cases of Lop in

medieval

> documents. When -e was restored (modern: príncipe, noche, corte,

presente,

> romance), it was also restored on apocopated forms like Lop or

Felip, giving

> Lope and Felipe.
>
> =======================
> Miguel Carrasquer Vidal
> mcv@...

Might this have been a Castillian attempt to (re)assert the
independence of their language from Catalan?

Torsten