Re: [tied] OE *docga 'Fido'?

From: tgpedersen
Message: 16432
Date: 2002-10-19

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> ODEngEtym: pig
> ...ME pigge < OE *picga, *pigga, of similar formation to
*docga "dog" ... connexion with synon LG, early Du. bigge, big, MDu
vigghe, cannot be made out...
>
> So both unclean SE Asian animals have a sonder-English name,
> similarly derived, for whatever reason. Substrate? But what?

>
> Similarly, we have Eng. frog < OE frocga (beside forsc, frox <
*frosc < *frux-ska-z) as well as stag < OE stacga, of which the
latter at least is not unclean. The pattern is characteristic of
hypocoristic derivatives including abbreviated forms of proper names
(Offa, Otto, Sicco, etc.). <frocga> is surely the diminutive of
<frox>, but since there seems to be no obvious prototype for *docga
(which appears only once in an 11th-c. gloss as gen.pl.
docgena 'canum'), we should consider the possibility that it
originated as a conventional name for a dog in OE, and may have no
proper etymology. <pig> is not attested before the 13th century, nor
is <hog> before the 14th, and they aren't even common Germanic.
>
> Piotr

--- In cybalist@..., João Simões Lopes Filho <jodan99@...> wrote:
> In the case of HOG there's a clear relation to Welsh hwch < *huccos
< *Celtic *succos.

But what do you make of Swedish 'sugga' "sow" then (sorry, I don't
have a Swedish Etym Dict)? Danish instead has 'so' "sow". Perhaps
North Germanic Verschärfung?

Torsten