From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8356
Date: 2001-08-07
--- In cybalist@..., jpisc98357@... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/6/01 3:23:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
pva@...
> > Marija Gimbutas' Kurganish culture-language would be a very
> > primitive proto-IE type. Although dominant in specific
districts, it's use
> > and associated material assemblage would be spotty. In the end it
would be
> > so weak an expression that it was more-or-less absorbed by the
much larger
> > non IE speaking population.
> >
> Dear Joseph Crary,
>
> Isn't the whole idea of PIE that it was a strong language and
that the
> basic core words had forms and constructions that could be found
from Ireland
> to India? How could a weak language with few speakers manage to
displace
> such words as mother, father, daughter, water and horse within a
larger
> indigenous population that they were infiltrating.
>
> An analogy might be the million Vietnamese who migrated to the
US after
> the war being so influential that we started using the Vietnamese
words for
> Mother and Father, displacing their usage from American English
within two
> generations. Even if the Vietnamese conquered the United States
and we were
> under the occupation of a five million man Vietnamese Army
occupation force,
> what is the liklihood that 30 years later I would be referring to
my parents
> and children by Vietnamese words and using their language for terms
like
> water, river, snow, corn, bread and ice cream?
>
> I think the least intrusive impact of PIE speakers would be a
conquest of
> an area followed by the slaughter or enslavement of all the men and
> usurpation of all the women and small children. Then the IE
dialect could be
> imposed on the conquered.
> The most intrusive would be the complete displacement of the
indigenous
> peoples and the full occupation of their lands. The truth may be
somewhere in
> between.
>
> I consider it highly unlikely that terms like mother, father,
daughter,
> water etc would be voluntarily sought out and adopted by any tribal
society
> to be taken on as its own.
>
> Best regards, John Piscopo
> http://www.johnpiscoposwords.com
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