Re: A weak PIE adopted by the world?

From: Joseph S Crary
Message: 8356
Date: 2001-08-07

Have you seen the moive

...Black Robe?

very well researched

However the key lines are...

They did not do this to us...
with everything we wanted from them
...we did this to ourselves

a moral?

a vast majority sells its soul to a small minority

because of perceived benefit and greed


Then again, i'm not sure what you mean either?

--- In cybalist@..., jpisc98357@... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/6/01 3:23:47 PM Central Daylight Time,
pva@...
> > Marija Gimbutas' Kurganish culture-language would be a very
> > primitive proto-IE type. Although dominant in specific
districts, it's use
> > and associated material assemblage would be spotty. In the end it
would be
> > so weak an expression that it was more-or-less absorbed by the
much larger
> > non IE speaking population.
> >
> Dear Joseph Crary,
>
> Isn't the whole idea of PIE that it was a strong language and
that the
> basic core words had forms and constructions that could be found
from Ireland
> to India? How could a weak language with few speakers manage to
displace
> such words as mother, father, daughter, water and horse within a
larger
> indigenous population that they were infiltrating.
>
> An analogy might be the million Vietnamese who migrated to the
US after
> the war being so influential that we started using the Vietnamese
words for
> Mother and Father, displacing their usage from American English
within two
> generations. Even if the Vietnamese conquered the United States
and we were
> under the occupation of a five million man Vietnamese Army
occupation force,
> what is the liklihood that 30 years later I would be referring to
my parents
> and children by Vietnamese words and using their language for terms
like
> water, river, snow, corn, bread and ice cream?
>
> I think the least intrusive impact of PIE speakers would be a
conquest of
> an area followed by the slaughter or enslavement of all the men and
> usurpation of all the women and small children. Then the IE
dialect could be
> imposed on the conquered.
> The most intrusive would be the complete displacement of the
indigenous
> peoples and the full occupation of their lands. The truth may be
somewhere in
> between.
>
> I consider it highly unlikely that terms like mother, father,
daughter,
> water etc would be voluntarily sought out and adopted by any tribal
society
> to be taken on as its own.
>
> Best regards, John Piscopo
> http://www.johnpiscoposwords.com
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