Re: [tied] Basileus

Some second thoughts: an underlying *gWm-ti- is implied by such forms as Latin -venti-on- (as in <conventio:> 'assembly' or <inventio:> 'coming upon, invention') or German Zukunft 'future' (= 'time to come', cf. OHG kumft 'motion', ON samkund 'gathering', etc.) even if their relation to PIE *gWmtis is indirect. The general meaning 'walk, go, proceed' of Greek baino: (< *gWm-je-) is apparently a late extension of a more concrete PIE meaning ('come, approach'), implying movement towards the speaker. If this older meaning were assumed for *gWasi-la:wos, perhaps the correct interpretation would be 'he that musters the lâos' or 'he that makes the lâos gather'. As to Glen's objection that the literal translation of the compound looks clumsy in English, that's often the case with exocentric (bahuvri:hi) compounds which sound less natural to an Anglophone ear than endocentric.

Piotr

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From: Piotr Gasiorowski

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:10 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Basileus

*gWm-ti-s 'motion' from *gWem- 'walk, move' is a bona fide PIE word. Apart from Gk. basis we have Skt. gati- 'motion, path, progress'. Lith. gimti, Latv. dzimt 'to be born' (< 'to come') at the very least shows the same formative principle, since Baltic and Slavic infinitives derive from deverbal nouns in *-ti-.

(BTW, as regards your other predictions, the expected but unattested Latin form would actually be truncated *vens/*ventis parallel to mens, mors < *mn-ti-s, *mr-ti-s. In Slavic we would get *gIm-tI- > *z^e~tI, also unattested. The Proto-Celtic reflex would be *-an-, not *-in-)

Piotr

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From: Joăo S. Lopes Filho

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Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:16 PM

Subject: Re: [tied] Basileus

If *gWmti- had cognates in other IE languages, we must expect

Latin *Venti-

Germanic *Kundi-, *Kunthi-

Celtic *Binti-

Indo-iranian *Gati-

Slavic *Ge,ti-

Baltic *Gimti-