On Aug 22, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Peter T. Daniels wrote:

>
> For the umpteenth time, pinyin isn't used by anyone after third or
> fourth grade. It's for foreigners.
>

FWIW, I know a number of Chinese who would disagree with this.

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