Re: Alleged Syllabaries from Alphabets

--- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Wordingham"
<richard.wordingham@...> wrote:

> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "suzmccarth" <suzmccarth@...> wrote:
> > --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> > wrote:
> > > suzmccarth wrote:
>
> > Yes, but you don't actually say whether the consonant clusters

are in

> > CA or in PCA. You mentioned consonant clusters in CA some time

last

> > summer and I am still waiting for an example. It is hard to

carry on

> > a conversation at this pace.
>
> Here's an apparent specimen of Potawatomi from
> <http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?

forumid=8243&messageid=1112639459>:

>
> wegwnije ga zhechgeyek ode msenegen.wawika shna ngi bya shode ewi
> wawijgeyan enebyegeyek. neyap nwi byayan shode mine ngodek shna.

bama

> pi mine.
>
> This is from the forum associated with

http://www.potawatomilang.org .

> There are other words scattered about the site which appear to
> contain clusters.

Thanks for the example of Potawatomi. I knew about ng but not ms or
shn as a consonant cluster. There is no contrastive voicing or
phonation in Cree but there is the preaspirate. While the preaspirate
always had a symbol it was seldom used.


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Here are a few Cree phrases. The labialization is an added sidedot
and the s final can be used at the end of a syllable. However, Cree
has been written without marking the s final. No word would ever
begin with a CCV syllable. itatoskeyan would have this structure V-CV-
CV-C-CV-CV-C I guess there are some phonological consonant clusters
but you never have to write a CCV syllable or a VCC syllable - only
V, CV, CVC.

Suzanne