suzmccarth wrote:

>
> --- In qalam@yahoogroups.com, "Peter T. Daniels" <grammatim@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Look at the Cree shapes. Are they simple geometric figures?
> >
> > Does the similarity need explaining?
>
> Here are links so you can see for yourself. (I too am having a
> problem with files. I can view everything but I cannot upload
> files. This command is not available in my files folder. I have
> tried contacting Seshat but the email has been returned as
> undeliverable.)
>
> So here are the links.
>
> http://www.nisto.com/cree/syllabic/
>
> http://www.bsblind.co.uk/full/moon/wmoon3.htm

Moon is shown in the 11th Britannica.

> For Moon's system be sure to scroll down the page and view the
> matrix display. There are few matching values between the two
> systems. However, does Cherokee have matching values to roman
> orthography?

Of course not, and that's the point. Sequoiah's printer did not have
facilities for cutting type punches, so he chose sorts from existing
fonts and used them for the hand-drawn characters, with Sequoiah's
approval. The Cherokee printed shapes are elaborate and complicated. But
the Cree shapes are minimal and don't need to be explained by any sort
of influence -- especially since there's no correspondence between sound
and shape between the two schemes.

> I don't think there is any connection between Moon and Evans but
> maybe there were certain influences either cultural or technical
> that made it likely two systems so similar in form and presentation
> would emerge. Moon's is a full orthography that matches the English
> alphabet letter for letter.

What sort of "influences"?

> How many other times in history have systems appeared with these
> basic geometrical designs?

Every?
--
Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...