Michael Everson wrote:

>
> At 18:56 -0400 2004-05-27, Peter T. Daniels wrote:
>
> >Neither veyz nor ey appears in the WWS list of names;
>
> So? WWS is not perfect. The names I gave come from Weinreich's
> College Yiddish, YIVO Institute 1971 (5th revised edition, 7th
> printing 1990)

Does he claim the name of <t> is <dof>?

> >and those "points" are not used in Yiddish orthography, only letters
> >in which the Hebrew points with those names appear are. In Yiddish,
> >they're not separable from the "consonants" on which they ride.
>
> Sorry, Peter, that's a dodge. Just because they are obligatory
> doesn't mean they aren't the points QAMATS and PATAH.

They were, historically. In Yiddish, they aren't.

> >I still don't know what "SIN DOT in SIN" is.
>
> Shin with a dot indicating it is [s] not [S].

A dot inside a shin is a dagesh, indicating a lengthened shin, not a
sin.
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Peter T. Daniels grammatim@...