Try this page for a font:
http://uk.geocities.com/BabelStone1357/
And this for a unicode text editor with an input method for Mongolian,
and some interesting-sounding conversion utilities. (I know nothing
about Mongolian, but this editor has some extremely useful utilities,
such as listing installed fonts that support any given script.):
http://uk.geocities.com/BabelStone1357/Software/BabelPad.html
Cormac
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> 1. Re: Mongolian script ?s
> From: sharon_correll@...
> 2. RE: Mongolian script ?s
> From: Marco Cimarosti <marco.cimarosti@...>
> 3. Re: Mongolian script
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
> 4. tai le
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
> 5. apologies
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 10:24:34 -0500
> From: sharon_correll@...
> Subject: Re: Mongolian script ?s
>
>
> Thanks for the help on Mongolian. Since those questions were
> so successful, I have a few more!
>
> (1) Some consonants followed by "a" or "e" have an alternate
> final form, which (from what I understand) is indicated in
> Unicode by a variation selector character in the data. Do
> these forms appear in words of one syllable, for instance in
> "ra" or "ne" (assuming such words exist), or only in longer
> words like "nara"?
>
> (2) I'm realizing that until yesterday I was assuming that
> Mongolian syllables always showed up in a nice CV pattern,
> with maybe a spare initial vowel or final consonant. I guess
> this was because of the chart I've been working from. Now I'm
> suspecting that may not be the case. If you have a series of
> consonants, are "a" forms used for all but the last? (ie,
> "bgmno" would be written the same as "bagamano"?) Similarly,
> can you have sequences of vowels?
>
> (3) My chart did not include the Uncode characters LHA, ZHI,
> and CHI. Is there something special about them?
>
> (4) Any idea where can I find a nice-quality, *free*
> Mongolian TrueType font that I might be able to get
> permission to modify (add tables)?
>
> Thanks,
> Sharon
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 19:25:10 +0200
> From: Marco Cimarosti <marco.cimarosti@...>
> Subject: RE: Mongolian script ?s
>
> Sharon Correll wrote:
> > (2) I'm realizing that until yesterday I was assuming that
> Mongolian
> > syllables always showed up in a nice CV pattern, with maybe a spare
> > initial vowel or final consonant. I guess this was because of the
> > chart I've been working from. Now I'm suspecting that may
> not be the
> > case. If you have aseries of consonants, are "a" forms used for all
> > but the last? (ie, "bgmno" would be written the same as
> > "bagamano"?) Similarly, can you have sequences of vowels?
>
> My understanding is that Mongolian is an *alphabet*, not an
> abugida. So there should be no inherent vowels or "syllable
> syntax": any combination of letters that would be
> pronounceable is fine.
>
> > (4) Any idea where can I find a nice-quality, *free*
> > Mongolian TrueType
> > font that I might be able to get permission to modify (add tables)?
>
> Omniglot lists two of them (towards the end of the page):
>
> http://www.omniglot.com/writing/mongolian.htm
>
> _ Marco
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 11:23:26 -0700
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
> Subject: Re: Mongolian script
>
> At 08:24 AM 5/25/2004, sharon_correll@... wrote:
>
> Please also refer to the attached PDF with my poor
> handwriting... Sharon,
> if you get a nice Windows-systemed Mongolic input system I'll
> be *very*
> happy and appreciative.
>
> >(1) Some consonants followed by "a" or "e" have an alternate final
> >form,
> >which (from what I understand) is indicated in Unicode by a
> variation
> >selector character in the data. Do these forms appear in words of one
> >syllable, for instance in "ra" or "ne" (assuming such words
> exist), or
> >only in longer words like "nara"?
>
> According to Janhunen (2003), <a/e> is written as
> detached from
> the following letters preceding it:
>
> Classical Written Mongolian:
> a/e/n, i, l, m, q, r, u
>
> Modern Written Mongolian adds to this set:
> n, qh
>
> examples are as follows:
> nar-a "sun; age", sir-a "yellow", qar-a "black", etc.
>
> however, if memory serves me write, there are cases of
> non-separation (i'm
> kind of fuzzy on this; I'll double-check tonight):
>
> tal-a "steppe(s), plain" vs -tala/-tele [terminal
> postposition],
>
> >(2) I'm realizing that until yesterday I was assuming that Mongolian
> >syllables always showed up in a nice CV pattern, with maybe a spare
> >initial vowel or final consonant. I guess this was because
> of the chart
> >I've been working from. Now I'm suspecting that may not be
> the case. If
> >you have a series of consonants, are "a" forms used for all
> but the last?
> >(ie, "bgmno" would be written the same as "bagamano"?)
> Similarly, can you
> >have sequences of vowels?
>
> <bgmno> would not occur in Written Classical Mongolian...
> The only Mongolic script that I know of that would
> do anything
> like this is the Cyrillic Kalmuck script where <eknr> =
> ekener 'women'.
>
> <a/e>, if present, is written, often missed by a
> beginning student
> as a 'tooth' for another consonant.
>
> <e> is often subsumed by the preceding letter's "tooth"-like
> portion, <a> is never subsumingly combined:
> ke-r-e-g (let the hyphens indicate distinct glyph
> separation/identity)
> q-a-m-a-r
>
> >(3) My chart did not include the Uncode characters LHA, ZHI,
> and CHI.
> >Is
> >there something special about them?
>
> These are used for transliterating other languages,
> primarily
> Tibetan and Chinese. There is also a separate set of <ka>
> <ga> etc which
> are also used for foreign transliteration which do not
> necessarily follow
> the usual q/k/G/g patterns.
>
> >(4) Any idea where can I find a nice-quality, *free*
> Mongolian TrueType
> >font that I might be able to get permission to modify (add tables)?
>
> Marco posted on this already...
> -patrick
>
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>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:22:18 -0700
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
> Subject: tai le
>
>
> Hiyas, Michael -
>
> I know you've done a Tai Le font, since I've seen it in
> the Unicode docs,
> as well as cited in numerous places.. but I couldnt' find it on the
> www.evertype.com site.
>
> Is this font non-available?
> I'm working on keyboarding for Tai Le and unfortunately
> there're no
> satisfactory Unicoded fonts available.. =S
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:22:56 -0700
> From: Patrick Chew <patchew@...>
> Subject: apologies
>
>
> please excuse the missend to the list...
>
> -patrick
>
>
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