--- In phoNet@yahoogroups.com, "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@i...>
wrote:
> Czech ř (which continues the Proto-Slavic cluster *rj or *r
palatalised by a following front vowel) is a laminal alveolar trill
[rÌ»] (the correct IPA diacritic is a small subscript rectangle). As
the tip of the tongue vibrates, the blade of the tongue approaches
the back of the alveolar ridge, producing a fricative noise. The
consonant is devoiced when preceded by a voiceless obstruent or word-
final.

Is the description as a 'laminal alveolar trill' adequate? I saw
some discussion on SAMPA for Czech which suggested that there wasn't
an adequate symbol, with the result that [P\] was selected, along
with [Q\] as the voiceless allophone. On the other hand, I can't
see any discussion rejecting [r_m], where _m is the X-SAMPA
equivalent of the subscript rectangle. The home page for the
discussion is http://moon.feld.cvut.cz/sampa/ . Raising (X-SAMPA
[r_r] ) was dismissed as too inaccurate, though the Unicode(!)
description of the discontinued IPA symbol U+027C (long leg 'r' -
see http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U0250.pdf ) says that that is
the preferred representation!

Help!

Richard.