From: Bryan Levman
Message: 4433
Date: 2015-10-16
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Subject: [palistudy] Sumaṅgala-Vilāsinī_question
From: "Bryan Levman bryan.levman@... [palistudy]"
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Date: Thu, October 15, 2015 3:46 pm
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Dear Pāli friends,In the Sumaṅgalavilāsinī (volune 1, page 4, lines 6-12), Mahākassapa excludes certain people from the first council and includes others. I am having some trouble in understanding how many groups the Pāli refers to or whether the various phrases are appositive.It reads as follows (PTS version):thero sakala-navaṅga-satthu-sāsana-pariyatti-dhare puthujjana-sotāpanna-sakadāgāmi-anāgāmi –sakkha (Burmese: sukkha)-vipassaka-khīṇāsava-bhikkhū anekasate, anekasahasse ca bajjayitvā tipiṭaka-sabbapariyatti-ppabheda-dhare paṭisambhidā-ppatte mahānubhāve yebhuyyena bhagavato (Burmese; PTS Bhagavatā) etadaggaṃ āropite tevijjādi-bhede khīṇāsava-bhikkhū yeva ekūnapañcasate pariggahesi.of which a rough translation isThe Elder [Mahākassapa] excluded those many hundreds and thousands who knew the whole nine limbs of the teacher’s teaching by heart, the common people, the stream-enterers, the once-returners, the non-returners and those monks whose outflows had been destroyed through dry-insight [those who achieved insight without samādhi], and he included just 499 monks whose outflows had been destroyed, of great majesty, who for the most part had effected that pinacle of the Blessed One consisting in the three knowledges.It looks like those excluded include three groups1) those who knew the nine aṅgas2) everyone who wasn’t an arhat (the common people up to the non-returners)3) monks whose outflows were destroyed through dry-insightBut there are no “ca’s” in the text, leaving open the possibility of an appositive structure.For those 499 included, there are also no “ca’s” and again the question is, is the commentator talking about one group of monks who have destroyed the outflows, have great majesty, achieved the three knowledges? or two or three different groups? It looks like an appositive structure with everything modifying the khīṇāsava-bhikkhū. That would suggest that the excluded groups should be similarly read, except a putthujana, sotāpanna, etc., can not be read in apposition to khīṇāsava-bhikkū.I would appreciate knowing how you interpret these groups,Best wishes,Bryan