Re: vitakka & vicara

From: Bryan Levman
Message: 4387
Date: 2015-08-26

Hi Ven. Kumara,
 
The simile is found in Vin-a 1, 144 in a commentary on the paṭhamajjhāna:

oḷārikaṭṭhena ghaṇṭābhighātasaddo viya cetaso paṭhamābhinipāto vitakko, sukhumaṭṭhena anuravo viya anuppabandho vicāro.
 
(…vitakko is the first striking of the mind like the sound of contact with a bell, with a coarse meaning, and vicāro is the continuanace, like an echo, with a subtle meaning…)
 
Mettā,
 
Bryan

From: "Kumara Bhikkhu kumara.bhikkhu@... [palistudy]" <palistudy@yahoogroups.com>
To: palistudy@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2015 6:01 AM
Subject: RE: [palistudy] vitakka & vicara

 
Ah. No wonder it seem suspiciously unSutta-ish. Thank, Chris.

Chris Clark chris.clark@... [palistudy] wrote thus at 11:11 AM 26-08-15:

>Dear Kumāra Bhikkhu,
>
>I'm not sure if this simile is found in the
>suttas; however, it is found in the
>Milindapañha (p. 62-63). Lance Cousins
>discussed this passage, and similar ones, in his article:
>
>1992. "Vitakka/vitarka and vicāra". Indo-Iranian Journal 35 (2-3): 137-157.
>
>Regards,
>Chris
>
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>
>I read from a book that the Buddha compared them
>to "the sound of a bell when first struck" and
>"the reverberation of the bell". Has anyone seen such a sutta?
>
>with mettâ,
>Kumâra Bhikkhu, ven.
>
>
>
>
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