Re: Paribbajakakatha

  Dear Jim,

I'm mostly following the year of Sanskrit I took at McMaster
University... having to repeat phrases like:

ruk.se ti.s.thati kaaka.h

trained me in a certain way.  Our professor instructed us to pronounce
the 'v's like 'w's, and that aspirates should be pronounced vocally,
almost as though one were being punched in the stomach.  Also, the
palatals are what make one sound truly Indian... just put your tongue on
the roof of your mouth and start talking... you'll sound a lot like Abu
from the Simpsons.

Best,

Brother Noah


On 09/12/2010 10:58 AM, Jim Anderson wrote:
>
> Dear Brother Noah,
>
> You wrote:
> > Sorry for that... I started out my recordings much slower,
> > but once I realized I would probably have to re-record it
> > many times before I > managed to get a perfect recording,
> > I sped up a bit. I think I'm using > a fairly proper Pali
> > pronunciation, though I probably miss some of the
> > retroflex accents (.n, .t, etc) where you are to put your
> > tongue on the roof of your mouth as you say the letter.
> > I try to aspirate where > appropriate (th, dh, etc.) but
> > that may not be so clear either. I would be interested to
> > hear your version.
>
> I timed my recitation of the first 4 paragraphs at about 12 minutes
> which is much slower than your 6:25 min. mp3 recording of all 6
> paragraphs. I don't mind the imperfections. It just makes it all the
> more interesting to listen to. I notice your w pronunciation of v
> while mine is a v although I try to make it softer. I also took note
> of your bh in bhaasati. Are you pronuncing your aspirates as given in
> some pronunciation keys like the bh in abhorrence? I'm following
> Warder's key where he gives the p in pish for ph. For the cerebrals,
> I've moved away from the retroflexes and pronounce them in the same
> place of articulation, i.e, behind the aveolar ridge but with a
> different part of the tongue. The contact point is further back from
> the tip of the tongue, the part on the upper surface that normally
> rests adjacent to the point of contact on the hard palate. I have also
> made some changes to my palatals. There are some consonantal
> combinations that i'm uncertain of like a nasal + h or yh or even yy.
> I will have to buy a microphone before I can start doing voice
> recordings which will have to wait until next month.
>
> Thanks for posting the first paragraph of the Brahmajaalasutta which
> I'll be following up on with some comments.
>
> Best wishes,
> Jim
>
>


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