SV: ratyaa, ratya.m
From: Ole Holten Pind
Message: 1874
Date: 2006-05-22
Based on Jim last e-mail on thaane (in some cases...) is this just an
example of the locative absolute as is common in epic Sanskrit?
Best,
Jm
In this particular case .thaane occurs after vaa, and I think it must be
interpreted in the sense of prasa.nge "when there is occasion for
application." The explanation is syntactically ambiguous, but seems to say:
before following (paresu) /y/ /m/ etc. there is optionally vowel elision
from phonemes that occur before the immediately following
(phoneme)(anantare) when there is occasion for its application. Take the
example of padma :: paduma; before /m/ the vowel /u/ is elided from /d/ that
occur before the immediately following (phoneme)/m/.
Best,
Ole Pind
>Dear Ole,
>
>Thanks for your explanation of the term ".thaane" which I
think can be
>translated as "in the place or room". I could therefore
translate the gloss:
>
>"yakaara-makaara-nakaara-rakaaraadisu paresu anantare .thitaana.m
>va.n.naana.m saralopo hoti vaa .thaane." (Sd 69) as:
>
>"Optionally, there is vowel elision of the va.n.naa-s
standing in the place
>immediately before the letters: ya, ma, na, ra, etc."
>
>The locative meaning of "ya-ma-na-raadisu" in the sutta is
interpreted
>according to Paa.nini's intepretative rule I 1.66 and the
genitive meaning
>of ".thitaana.m va.n.naana.m" in the vutti according to his
rule I 1.49.
>
>I'm still somewhat baffled by ".Thaane ti kasmaa: Suppiyo...
paribbaajako."
>Is it just to give an example where the operation of vowel
elision is not
>found to take place? In other words, it's not an option here.
"Supyo" would
>look very odd.
>
>Best wishes,
>Jim
>
><< .thaane has basically the same value as sthaane in
Sanskrit grammar. The
>rule states that before following /ya/ etc. the vowel is
optionally elided
>from phonemes that occur (.thitaana.m) immediately before
/ya/ etc. when
>otherwise the vowel would be expected to apply (.thaane).
>One would e.g. expect /u/ to occur before /m/ of padmaani.
However, /u/ is
>elided from /d/ that occur immediately before /m/.
>
>Ole Pind >>
>
>
>
>
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