SV: cetaapana/cetaapanna

From: Ole Holten Pind
Message: 1820
Date: 2006-05-16



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Sendt: 16. maj 2006 06:30
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Emne: Re: SV: [palistudy] cetaapana/cetaapanna

Dear Ole,

Thanks.

<I thought the word cetaapanna/cetaapana is derived from the verb cetaapeti,
which according to PED is the ''Caus. of *cetati to *ci,* collect''.  What
is the problem with this?>

The problem is that this explanation does not explain /t/. We would then
have to assume that the verb is derived from the pp. cita which is unlikely.



<Another question. Why is the numeral (compound form) ti doubled when found
medially in compounds, e.g, dvattipatta, ekatti.msa, dvatti.msa, baatti.msa,
etc. Is it because Pali ti corresponds to Sanskrit tri?>

Yes.

<However, the doubling doesn't always take place, e.g., atirekatirattam,
dirattatiratta, ekuunati.msa. Why is this so?>

My own explanation would be that the compilers of the Paatimokkha tried to
avoid excessive gemination which invariably would entail prosodical length
and thus would have rythmical implications>

In the case of dvatti, it could be explained by dvaa + ti > dvatti in
accordance with the law of Morae, but this can not be done with the other
examples.

<The form baatti.msa is in disagreement with the law of Morae. I could not
find any reading baati.msa on CSCD. Maybe other editions have this reading.>

The reading baat.msa(.m) appears to be exclusively Burmese. The references I
have checked read as one would expect batti.msa.

Best regards,

Ole Pind



Kind regards,
                              Bh. Nyanatusita



Ole Holten Pind wrote:
> Dear Bhante Nyanatusita,
>
> I have spent some time on this problem without reaching a conclusion
> about what might have motivated the difference of spelling. In
> addition, the word itself is a mystery from the point of view of its
> derivation. It certainly has no connection to ci nor to cit. The
> difference of spelling might have originated in an attempt to explain the
term as derived from ceta + aapanna.
> Ceta, however, is a problem in itself.
>
> Regards,
> Ole Pind
>
> -





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