Re: Digression on terminology & sources

Hi Eisel,

> > The nipaata class would be an open one with an indefinite number
of
> > words including indeclinable compounds, words ending
> > in -tvaa, -tu.m, -to, and so on.
>
> Where do you draw this definition from?  Why would (e.g.)
participles and
> other verbal-derivatives be treated as a subset of "avyaya"?

Words ending in -tvaa, -tu.m, -to, etc. are treated as nipaatas in the
Saddaniiti, Ch. 27 (see pp. 894 and 903 for examples). This chapter
does not seem to include the avyayiibhaava (indeclinable compound) in
the nipaata class nor does Paa.nini. But Pa.nini does inlcude this
type of compound in his definition of avyaya (1.1.41). I concluded,
that in the scheme of the 4 word-classes, it could only belong to the
nipaata class. It should be noted that the Saddaniiti gives a
definition of avyaya at sutta 695 just before defining the
avyayiibhaava-samaasa. Participles that are declined like nouns and
adjectives belong to the naama class. I think the fourfold
classification of words was well-known in ancient India. You'll notice
that the a.t.thakathaas makes use of it and it is even found in
Pata~njali's Mahaabhaa.sya (ca. 3rd cent. B.C.) where he relates it to
the "four horns" of the bullock at .Rgveda 4.58.3.

> > Before I go any further, I'd like to know your source for the
> > meaning 'until' as well as the 'in future' for the previous
'amutra'.
>
> I already stated my sources in my initial posting on the subject:
aside from
> Buddhadatta, the only other text I used (i.e., could carry on my
bicycle) is
> a century-old Sinhalese edition of the Abidhanappadipika.

I just wanted to know how you came up with 'in future' and 'until'. I
considered the puzzle that Lance pointed out and found two mistakes:
"nihi" should read "nahi" and the "if" does not belong. It comes from
the "ce" that follows "nahi" at Abh 1147 but here the "ce" belongs to
a different group (... ce tu sace yadi //).

Thanks for the information on how to procure the Sinhalese reprint.

Jim


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