Re: Romanization, East vs. West

correction to navako's view on burmese nissaya,many
rare nissaya are printed in books such as grammar
books,atthakatha,etc.There are samantapasadika in
nissaya format in book
tipitaka burmese translation from sixth council  are
printed in word-by-word and in complete format.
too many important tika are missing from sixth council
such as Jataka tika


navako <navako@...> wrote:
>
>
> >>The blanket judgement that many academics offer
> that all Asian
> >>editions are "full of errors" is really
> prejudicial and false...
> >>
> > Here I would like to pick up a problem; what is
> the hallmark of a
> > "critical edition" ...
>
> Bhante, while the 6th council edition from Burma is
> legendary, it is *not*
> the only critical edition to be produced in Asia:
> the Royal editions of
> Thailand described in my last message, and various
> editions of Sri Lanka,
> India (Maha Bodhi Society, etc.), all meet these
> criteria as "critical
> editions".  There is the separate question as to
> whether errors are
> introduced in typesetting --and I would say this is
> a problem in both East
> and West.  At any rate, living traditions in all
> Theravada countries have
> continued to produced critical editions and other
> scholarship unto the
> present day; and, again, there is much more of this
> than the west could ever
> produce.  The intellectual isolation that has been
> forced upon monks in
> Burma is indeed very unfortunate (although, I
> believe, these are even more
> desperate times to be a layperson in Burma)
> --when/if the country opens up
> again, I think Westerners will find that Ledi
> Sayadaw (one of the few
> Burmese masters published and known in English) was
> not the only
> intellectual monk of his generation.  (Incidentally,
> I would encourage
> anyone/everyone to judge Ledi Sayadaw's work by the
> primary sources only,
> and not the second hand reports/interpretations
> offered by some of the
> lay-preachers of our day).
>
> > The real editorial work was done in */nissaya/s*.
> It was up to/ nissaya/
> > authors to seek out various sources, to collate
> them, to pick up the
> > best readings out of variant ones, and to explain
> how and why a
> > particular reading was better than others.
>
> Yes indeed --and these Nissayas are only available
> as manuscripts.  Thus,
> all the more reason for western scholars to learn to
> read Pali in the local
> script!  Enough said.
>
> > The earlier printed editions were not better than
> their manuscript
> > counterparts. They were made from one or two
> manuscripts that could be
> > found and their editors were just proof readers.
>
> The same could be said of many western editions!
>
> In reply to Ong Teng Kee:
>  I do not think I will bore everyone by repeating
> the (supposed) merits of
> my book.  However, the text I am producing is a
> general textbook, including
> a new edition of Mason's textbook (which is closely
> based on Kaccayana) and
> the original text of Kaccayana, typeset in
> classical-literary Sinhalese &
> also Burmese script.  It is a very different book,
> both in appearance and in
> function, from Pind's work --the latter is an
> experimental reconstruction of
> the text based on a Sri Lankan commentary, and is
> Romanized, and will only
> be of use to a small number of scholars (myself
> included!) and will not,
> e.g., alleviate the dire need for (affordable/free)
> Pali textbooks in Laos
> and Cambodia.  Thus, in priority, purpose, and
> substance, Pind and I are
> working on very different projects.
>
> E.M.
>
> --
> A saying of the Buddha from http://metta.lk/
> Get your Dhamma Books from http://books.metta.lk/
> One should not strike a Brahmana, nor should a
> Brahmana vent (his wrath) on
> one who has struck him. Shame on him who strikes a
> Brahmana! More shame on
> him who gives vent (to his wrath)!
> Random Dhammapada Verse 389
>
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