Re: Kc introduction

From: Ong Teng Kee
Message: 659
Date: 2003-06-11

I must mention that burma,cambodia ,sinhala ,shan and mon are not tonal languages like thai ,vietnam laos ,lanna,thai lue and various chinese languages.
I like to mention that saddaniti nisya did mention about 7 times saddaniti tika but all unimportant comments.This nisya was done about the same time with saddaniti tika.I have no luck with that taiwan guy but I think I can find it in mandalay.The nisya said saddaniti tika leaves texts are mya(a lot) in the intro.
That sinhala original selected only useful comment from vutti to suttanidesa,vannana,nyaasa ,etc.
Niruttimanjusa cannot be written in 12 th century for aggavamsa to refer to and saddatthbhedacinta,sarathhajalini are all imply in this sadaaniti.(14 th century book)



im Anderson <jimanderson_on@...> wrote:
Dear Teng Kee,

Thanks for the information. See below.

> Dear Jim,
> The two extra sutta are correct follow nyaasa comment (nyasa means
right exposition
> ni+as,see sutta no.859 in saddasuttamala ni+aayogo for nyaayogo;

I had a look at this sutta which has quite a long commentary on it. I
think Nyaasa is preferrable to the ~Naasa spelling found in the CPD
bibliography.

> I don't know how buddhadatta dict about mortgae and pawn came from).

I saw pawn for nyaasa in Monier-Williams' English-Sanskrit Dictionary.
It could be related to the meaning of ni + as (set down, also deposit)
making it seem like a term that could be used for a business
transaction as well as a literary work.

> It is same with 487 and 485 in saddaniti.You must say it in burma
as dhada kyi for saddakri means big grammar text.

I think your 485 should be 486.

> The original sinhala are the best because he has included comments
from tika for each sutta.

Is this tika the nyaasa?

Thanks also for the information about the dating of the Saddaniti. The
1154 dating is quite precise and I saw the date, 1697 (Buddha era,
1697-543=1154 A.D.), given in the Saasanava.msa (19th cent.) by
Pa~n~naasaami who also wrote the .tiika on the Saddaniiti. Kahrs in
JPTS XVII seems convinced that this tika never existed! Kahrs
cites the 1154 dating but also refers to an article by Tin Lwin who
argues (unconvincingly to Kahrs) for a later dating in the first half
of the 13th cent. I think the Ruupasiddhi is thought to have been
written sometime during the period 1236-70. I notice that the
Culla-ganthava.msa does not even mention the Ruupasiddhi.

Best wishes,
Jim

<< I thought you might be interested for saddaniti composing date.Most
people follow sasanavamso for this book as written in 1154 but I think
it was written later in between 1234-1250 follow pitakamain.150 years
old nisaya listed garu,matantara(diferrent views),kaci in it (at least
50 times)as rupasiddhi sayadaw which is written between 1236-1270 King
parakaramabahu 2.It cannot be earlier for saddaniti to writing down
buddhappiya 's views.Someone must have sent rupasiddhi mss to him as
soon as rupasiddhi was written about the same time.Also niruttimanjusa
mentioned twice in padamala can only be 13 th century book but not in
12 th cen. >>






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