Re: Siivaka Sutta

Dear Nina ,
Bodhi in his note (page 1436) says that feeling here means painful feeling
>>>>> "kamma can still be an indirect cause for the painful feeling
directly induced by the first seven... is the sufficient cause only in the
eight
On kammavipakajani vedayitani SPK says that these are produced solely
(kevalam) as a result of kamma. Feelings arisen directly from the other
seven causes are not 'feelings produced by kamma' even though kamma may
function as an underlying cause of illlness. SPk says that this sutta is
spoken from the stadnpoint of worldly convention (lokavohara) "Because it
is is generally accepted in the world that (feelings) arise from bile and
so forth . Granted feelings based on the physical body are actually
produced by kamma, but this worldly convention is arrived at by way of the
present condition (paccuppapannapaccayavasena). Accepting what is said the
opponents doctrine is refuted">>
with respect
robert
--- Nina van Gorkom <nilo@...> wrote:
> Dear Jim, there is so much discussion of the Siivaka Sutta. I am reading
> it
> now in Pali (K. S. XXXVI, §21). I have the Co in Thai, and I would be
> very
> grateful if you could give me the Pali of Co and subco. That is, if it
> is
> not too much trouble.  I think I shall order the Pali text from PTS. but
> as
> far as I know they do not print subco.
> Thank you, best wishes from Nina.
>
>


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