Fwd: Re: [Triplegem] Re: Duration of sasana

--- In Triplegem@..., Ong Teng Kee <ongtkee@...> wrote:
Dear robert,
I still haven't get any reply from you about
sakkapanha sutta last night.I just like to add sakka
first and sixth rebirth will be sakka devaraja .2,3,4
will as deva.Fifth will a human.The sixth rebirth as a
sakka will be sakadagami.The seventh rebirth will be
going plane by plane until the highest suddhavasa
world as a anagami.The  time spend in suddhavasa will
be 31 kappa.
The jhana anagami mention in samyutta nikaya com is in
vol.5 mahavagga--indriya samyutta--jaravagga--sutta
no.2 -unnabrahmanasutta. see the com .The sutta have
mentioned about retaining in this world.I think
anagami in this sutta is different from the ordinary
anagami as a monk. (i will have more idea soon)see
abhidhammatthasangaha tika by sumangala who said
aniyama(not a natural)event for anagami to reborn in
suddhavasa.
Have you found the ang. com about sasana declining.I
like to mention the vinaya com of anagami is possible
now come from khuddaka bhanaka(khukkanikaya reciter
only)>majjhima and samyutta reciter did not give any
time.Anguttara reciter is the word from anuruddha or
his students.It is considered more accurate compare to
digha and khuddaka reciter.




--- robertkirkpatrick@... wrote:
> --- In Triplegem@..., r us.
> >
> > As the Buddha said (in Tipitaka Texts), there
> would be continuous
> > lines of Arahats in the presence of his Teachings
> and the Order of
> > Sangha, we should not question or over-rule the
> Tipitaka Texts in
> > favour of Commentaries.
> >
> > _______________________
>
> Dear Melvin,
> One of the problems we have seen in this thread is
> that in the
> Tipitaka (not the commentaries) it is recorded that
> the Buddha said
> the Sasana would only last 500 years. I think you
> cited this in an
> article which you said was reliable. So are you
> going to chose this
> over the commentaries?
> It is not so clear cut all these matters, so when we
> have someone
> like Teng - a bonafide pali scholar - it is good to
> learn what he has
> found. I reach no conclusions about the length of
> the sasana because
> even in the tipitaka there are different pointers
> given. Sometimes it
> does say that if the pariyatti remains then the
> practice and release
> will remain. At other times they say that when
> counterfeit Dhamma
> arises the sasana will decline..
> I met an alleged arahant in Thailand - he was famous
> for a long time
> until certain events made him notorious. The same
> people that
> worshipped him then despised him. Yet, I still think
> of him in the
> same way that I did when we first met - as a friend-
> because I had no
> idea that he was an arahant. I simply listened to
> him, considered
> what he said in light of what I had learnt from the
> Tipitaka and also
> whether it helped me understand this moment. 
> robert
>
>
> 
>
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