From: stefan_karpik
Message: 15721
Date: 2011-12-29
--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, frank <fcckuan@...> wrote:
>
> Dear Stefan,
> I see your email shows a date of 12/19, today your post made it out
> to the list (12/25). I think some of your questions may already be
> answered during that time, but here are some more thoughts to consider.
>
> On my kindle touch and the model just before the touch came out
> (wireless, no 3g, + special spammy offers from amazon and partners), I
> was able to view pali diacritics on unicode just fine, including the
> tipitaka press epubs which were converted into .mobi with the free
> program calibre.
>
> As far as pali unicode surviving from PDF to mobi conversion from
> calibre or amazon's free conversion service, I've had mixed results.
> Calibre seems to be able to pull out scan of pictures from pdf files. I
> always assumed that the pDF->mobi conversions that worked were because
> the PDF's were authored with a standard unicode font, and the ones that
> didn't work were a special pali font. To test out my theory, I used open
> office (a free equivalent of microsoft word), and typed this microsoft
> word document, using default Times New roman:
> PÄḷi unicode test Ä Ä« Å« á¹á¹á¹
>
> If i export it to html, it reads fine as a webpage.
> I exported it to a PDF file.
> Then I used calibre to convert it from PDF to .mobi.
> I put that mobi on my kindle touch.
>
> It works fine.
> It took me 5 minutes to do that.
>
> I highly encourage Piya with his Sutta Discovery series and others to
> use standard unicode pali, so your electronic publications can be
> effortlessly ported to various devices.
>
> Metta,
> Frank
>
>
>
> On 12/19/2011 4:07 AM, stefan_karpik wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Bryan, Frank and others interested in e-readers,
> >
> > These posts made me think about upgrading my Kindle 3 to a Kindle
> > Touch, but I think I would still have the same problems after an
> > upgrade:
> >
> > 1. Neither reads ePub documents. This means the offerings of
> > Theravada Tripitaka Press can't be read on Kindle.
> >
> > 2. PDFs often cannot be enlarged sufficiently to read them. 3. PDFs
> > can be converted into Kindle format by Amazon quite efficiently and
> > for free, but diacritics, even in a Unicode font like Times Roman
> > Extended, come out as gobbledegook and tables are jumbled up. 4. PDFs
> > of scans cannot be converted to Kindle format
> >
> > 5. New fonts to handle diacritics cannot be introduced.
> >
> > Is this true for the Kindle Touch?
> >
> > Does anyone have a very positive experience of reading Pali on e-ink
> > readers?
> >
> > I completely agree that e-ink is much easier on the eyes than a
> > computer/ tablet/ smartphone screen.
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Stefan Karpik
> >
> > --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, Bryan
> > Levman <bryan.levman@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Frank,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your description of the Kindle Touch; it sounds well
> > > worth
> > the price!
> > >
> > > Metta, Bryan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________ From: frank fcckuan@ To:
> > > Pali@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com> Sent:
> > > Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:12:06 AM Subject: Re: [Pali] Re:
> > > JÃÂtaka, and low eyestrain e-ink readers
> > >
> > >
> > > Ã Dear Bryan and all, I looked at those links, there are digital
> > > versions there you can download, including Epub and mobi! Very
> > > cool. That means you can read
> > it
> > > with low eyestrain on a kindle, nook, etc. You can also get free
> > > ebook readers for your pc that will read those two formats. I got a
> > > "kindle touch" this month for 99$. Works very well. Visudhimagga
> > > (.mobi version) works GREAT on there. The swipe up and swipe down
> > > on the touch screen advances up and down through chapters, and the
> > > hyperlinks in the table of contents work. Also, I didn't register
> > > my kindle touch with amazon, and I leave the wireless
> > features
> > > turned off, so I don't get bombarded with annoying advertisements.
> > > I highly recommend everyone take a serious look at the e-readers
> > > (using e-ink) out there now that they're below 100$, especially
> > > kindle touch and nook touch. The e-ink works just like a printed
> > > book. You
> > can
> > > read it in full sunlight, low eye-strain, unlike computer screens
> > > that have flourescent back lights, which makes your vision go fuzzy
> > > and get slight headaches after a few hours of staring at it. I'm
> > > pretty sure there's people on this list who do a lot of reading,
> > > and if hours of
> > it
> > > are spent reading on a computer screen, you're going to be much
> > happier
> > > if you can read it on an ebook reader using e-ink instead. Note
> > > that
> > the
> > > color ebook readers such as the "kindle fire" are not e-ink
> > > readers, they are flourescent or LED backlight just like other
> > > tablet computers or pc screens, and thus would not have the
> > > advantage of low eyestrain e-ink such as the monochrome grayscale
> > > "kindle touch", "nook touch", etc. I also don't recommend the entry
> > > level "kindle" for 79$ which
> > does
> > > NOT have a touch screen. The button and 4 way cursor is incredibly
> > > tedious to use. Newer ebooks published, and especially dhamma
> > > material in ebook format will take full advantage of hyperlinks and
> > > you want to be able to just touch the hyperlink on screen and go
> > > there, not
> > navigate
> > > with a four way button cursor. The 20$ savings between "kindle
> > > touch" and entry level kindle is not worth it.
> > >
> > > -Frank
> > >
> > > On 12/15/2011 3:40 AM, Bryan Levman wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Dear Piya,
> > >>
> > >> You mean the English version by Burlingame, I assume? (I believe
> > >> the Pali is all on the Digital Pali Reader).
> > >>
> > >> I use this link for volume 2:
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://books2.scholarsportal.info/viewdoc.html?id=/ebooks/oca1/15/buddhi\
> >
> >
> stlegends02burluoft
> <http://books2.scholarsportal.info/viewdoc.html?id=/ebooks/oca1/15/buddhistlegends02burluoft>
> > >>
> > >> at the University of Toronto; I don't believe you can download
> > >> it,
> > but
> > >> you can read it on line
> > >>
> > >> The link for volume 3 is:
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://books1.scholarsportal.info/viewdoc.html?id=/ebooks/oca1/15/buddhi\
> >
> >
> stlegends03burluoft
> <http://books1.scholarsportal.info/viewdoc.html?id=/ebooks/oca1/15/buddhistlegends03burluoft>
> > >>
> > >> Hopefully that works for you. If anyone has a PDF version of
> > >> Burlingame, please let the group know,
> > >>
> > >> Metta,
> > >>
> > >> Bryan
> > >>
> > >> ________________________________ From: Piya Tan dharmafarer@
> > >> <mailto:dharmafarer%40gmail.com>> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> > >> <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 11:11:00 PM Subject: Re:
> > >> [Pali] Re: JÃÂtaka
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Dharma Friends,
> > >>
> > >> I have Dhammapadatthakatha (Dh Commentary in Pali) vol 1. Does
> > anyone have
> > >> the rest or know where i can download them?
> > >>
> > >> With metta,
> > >>
> > >> Piya
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Bryan Levman bryan.levman@
> > >> <mailto:bryan.levman%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> **
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear Friends,
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone know if the seven Fausboll JÃÂtaka volumes are
> > available on
> > >>> line with the prose and commentary? Most of the canons that I
> > >>> have consulted seems to only have the JÃÂtaka verses. Thanks
> > >>> for
> > your help,
> > >>>
> > >>> Metta, Bryan
> > >>>
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