Venerable Bhante Sobhana,
Op 16-jun-2011, om 15:27 heeft sakyaputtiyo het volgende geschreven:

> I was studying "Dutiya samaadhi Sutta" and it shows two ways of
> vipassana practice.
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N: This is a very wide subject and I have to take more time to react
to your questions.
Wheel Publication 351/353, "The Jhanas" by Ven. Henepola Gunaratana
(perhaps it is on line?) gives us many texts dealing with this subject.

As we read in See A II, 157, Yuganaddhasutta, that there are four
ways of development. Some people have accumulated skill and
inclinations to develop jhaana and some do not. We read about
someone who develops first calm and then insight, about someone who
develops first insight and then calm, about someone who develops both
of them yoked, and then the fourth way is about someone who has
overcome the imperfections of insight (after the third stage of
insight). It shows that people have different inclinations.

Also those who do not develop jhaana and who attain enlightenment with
'dry insight' have sammaasamaadhi accompanying lokuttara citta that
has the same strength of concentration as that arising with the first
jhaana. There is absorption in nibbaana.

The Pa.tisambhidaamagga, as you pointed out, also deals with
Yuganadha (XI), but I learnt that here it pertains to lokuttara
citta.For example in the English translation by Ven. Nyanamoli, (no
275) he develops serenity and insight coupled together with cessation
(nirodha) as supporting object.

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S: The question is can a person practice vipassana without any basis
of samatha? What will be sammaa samaadhi in the case of a person who
practices vipassana without the basis of jhaana and attain noble stages?

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N: The sammaasamaadhi as Path factor has to accompany sammaa
di.t.thi, right understanding. It focusses on the object of
vipassanaa, thus a naama or ruupa that appears and assists in this
way right understanding to penetrate its true nature. As the Myanmar
teacher you mentioned explains, concentration grows stronger as
pa~n~naa develops, especially when stages of insight have been reached.

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S: One renown Meditation Teacher in Myanmar says that sammaa samaadhi
and citta visuddhi are same. For those who follow samatha vehicle,
access concentration and absorption concentration are sammaa
samaadhi. And for those who follow vipassana vehicle, the momentary
concentration is sammaa samadhi. He adds, based upon the commentaries
that this momentary concentration starts to appear when
naamaruupapariccheda knowledge appears and becomes stronger and
stronger as one develops in vipassana.

This concentration reaches a level that is equal to absorption.

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N: As I understood, only when enlightenment is attained it reaches
the level of absorption.

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S:The Visuddhimagga, however, does not mention momentary
concentration as citta visuddhi; while its sub-commentary does.

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N: I understood that citta visuddhi stands for concentration that
goes together with vipassanaa. Whenever the word visuddhi is used I
think of insight.

As to momentary concentration, khanika samaadhi, perhaps this term
can be used with different meanings. It is different from jhaana
absorption.

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In the next few days I shall continue with this subject.

With respect,

Nina.





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