Dear Yong Peng,
Thank you very much.
Op 2-mei-2011, om 5:12 heeft Ong Yong Peng het volgende geschreven:

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> "Aavuso"ti kho te bhikkhuu aayasmato saariputtassa paccassosu.m.
> "Friend," to the venerable Sariputta, those monks assented indeed.
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N: PTS has:< "Yes, reverend sir" replied these monks to the venerable
Saariputta.>
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> So kaayassa bhedaa para.m mara.naa a~n~natara.m devanikaaya.m
> upapajjati.
> he / of body / from breaking / after / from death / certain /
> heavenly realm / is reborn in
> He is reborn in a certain heavenly realm after the dissolution of
> the body and after death.
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N: PTS has a different order : After the dissolution of the body and
after death he is reborn...
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Just a further explanation about the fetters I am adding:

DN 33.2.1(7) 'Five lower fetters: personality-belief (sakkaaya-
di.t.thi), doubt, attachment to rite and ritual (siilabbata-
paraamaasa), sensuality, ill-will.

(Pa~nca orambhaagiyaani sa~n~nojanaani - sakkaayadi.t.thi,
vicikicchaa, siilabbataparaamaaso, kaamacchando, byaapaado.)

The sotaapanna and the sakadaagaami are freed from three lower
fetters of personality-belief (sakkaaya-di.t.thi), doubt, attachment
to rite and ritual (siilabbata-paraamaasa), but they are still bound
by sensuality and ill-will. The anaagaami has eradicated attachment
to sense objects and ill-will.


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DN 33.2.1(8) 'Five higher fetters: craving for the world of form
(ruupa-raaga), craving for the formless world (aruupa-raaga), conceit
(maana), restlessness (uddhaca), ignorance.

The arahat is free from the five higher fetters of craving for the
world of form (ruupa-raaga), craving for the formless world (aruupa-
raaga), conceit (maana), restlessness (uddhaca), ignorance.



We read in the Puggala Pa~n~natti, by Twos, no 10 (Human Types, p. 33):

<What sort of person is with internal fetters?

A person in whom the five fetters tying him down to the lower worlds
remain unremoved is said to be a person with internal fetters.

What sort of person is with external fetters?

A person in whom the five fetters restraining him to the upper worlds
remain unremoved is said to be one with external fetters.>

We read in the �Dispeller of Delusion� (II, p. 252) that sense desire
existence (kaamabhava) is internal (ajjhatta) and fine material and
immaterial existence is external (bahiddhaa).

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Nina.

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