On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM, fcckuan@... <fcckuan@...>wrote:
>
>
> Hi Peter,
> Reciting dhp sounds like a good idea. I remember a few years
> ago someone had a list of the most frequently used pali words. Is that list
> in our archives? We could build an audio dictionary like what worldtipitaka
> did. Then it would be easy to write a program to speak any pali phrase. It
> would sound like a gps nav device reading street name directions, but what a
> wonderful upgrade over having nothing.
>
> On Oct 15, 2010 3:57 AM, Peter Hauer <linguasoft@...<linguasoft%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
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>
>
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thanks for your offer. I'll check the agenda and will keep you posted. It
> may be
>
> that we get support by a local (Austrian) sponsor which can aggregate the
>
> critical mass to initiate this project and keep the thing rolling. My
> personal
>
> preference was recording Dhammapada first in order to generate a Kindle
> audio
>
> book (alongside with translations into several Western languages) which may
>
>
> generate additional funds for the "academic" part of this project.
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
> --- On Tue, 10/12/10, frank <fcckuan@... <fcckuan%40gmail.com>>
> wrote:
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> From: frank <fcckuan@... <fcckuan%40gmail.com>>
>
>
> Subject: Re: Pali Pronunciation {Re: [Pali] audio tipitaka?}
>
> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>
>
> Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 2:05 PM
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> I'm willing to chip in some money for the budget. I can also
>
> contribute time to help digitize the recorded data if help is needed in
>
> that area. We can put together a wish list of sutta excerpts in order
>
> of priority. I personally would like to see the 16 steps of anapanasati,
>
> the 4 jhanas, their similes, the 4 immaterial attainments, the 6 higher
>
> knowledges and their similes from [DN 2], some excerpts that would
>
> include at least brief mention of 4 noble truths, noble eightfold path,
>
> 37 aids to enlightenment, so at least all the important buddhist words
>
> have a correct pali pronunciation covered.
>
> -Frank
>
> On 10/11/2010 7:27 AM, Peter Hauer wrote:
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> >
>
> > Dear All,
>
> >
>
> > I have a contact with the monks from Thotagamuwa Rajamaha Viharaya*
>
> > (they are
>
> > sponsored by our charity organization for tsunami victims,
>
> > www.istuti.org) and
>
> > may ask them if they are ready to assist with creating an audio
>
> > version of
>
> > (parts of) the Pali Canon. I plan to go there in winter and can carry
> a
>
> > high-quality audio recording device with me. It would be great to know
>
>
> > who else
>
> > may want to join in this project, and which sections of the Pali Canon
>
>
> > should be
>
> > given preference. Is there a possibility of funding, partially at
> least?
>
> >
>
> > Best regards,
>
> >
>
> > Peter E. Hauer
>
> > Vienna, Austria
>
> >
>
> > *)
>
> >
> http://www.hikkaduwanet.com/most_important_places/thotagamuwa_ancient_buddhist_temple/
>
> >/
>
> >
>
> > ________________________________
>
> > From: Lennart Lopin <novalis78@... <novalis78%40gmail.com><mailto:
> novalis78%40gmail.com>> <novalis78%2540gmail.com%26gt%3B%26gt>;
>
> > To: Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:
> Pali%40yahoogroups.com> <Pali%2540yahoogroups.com%26gt>;
>
> > Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 3:02:31 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: Pali Pronunciation {Re: [Pali] audio tipitaka?}
>
> >
>
> > Dear Bhante,
>
> >
>
> > I think the widely available paritta chantings are a bit misleading as
>
>
> > they
>
> > almost tend to be "artistic"...
>
> >
>
> > I'm not sure about the monks you're referring to, but generally the
>
> > > Sri-lankans pronounces Pali quite accurately (compared to Thais
> and
>
> > Burmese
>
> > > in general), except for a few oddities. Here are some of them
> that I can
>
> > > think of now:
>
> > >
>
> > > * Double 'g's are pronounced as a nasal guttural sound. E.g.,
> "maggo is
>
> > > pronounced as "mang-go". (Thais and Burmese don't do this.)
>
> > >
>
> > ? Never heard a Sri Lankan say "mango for maggo" :-)
>
> >
>
> > > * The short 'a' at the end of a word is sounded as a weak "er".
> E.g.,
>
> > > "kamma" as "kammer". (Thais and Burmese don't do this.)
>
> > >
>
> > yes, the Thai/Burmese pronounce it almost as ā ... (from an Indian
>
> > standpoint).
>
> >
>
> > > * When it comes to chanting, many of them tend to drag to last
>
> > syllable at
>
> > > the end of the line or sentence. (The monks of the forest
> tradition
>
> > seem to
>
> > > avoid this though. Some Thais do this sometimes, esp. at the end
> of the
>
> > > chanting.)
>
> > >
>
> > yes, unfortunately, I think esp. the temple chanting was influenced by
>
> > muslim (?) chanting (or some other influence), at least that what it
>
> > sounds
>
> > like (the dragging you mention)... a trend which seems to have crept
> into
>
> > chanting in the last 50 years... A very interesting alternative is
>
> > Dhammaruwan's
>
> > style of
>
> >chanting.<
> http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/chanting-in-the-6th-century/><http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/chanting-in-the-6th-century/>>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > Also
>
> > forest monks tend to avoid any singing style, an example for which
>
> > would be Bhante
>
> > Silagavesi's
>
> >chanting<
> http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57<http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57>
>
> >7
>
> >
>
> ><
> http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57>><http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57>>>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> > .
>
> >
>
> > But rather than chanting, just reading the texts gives an even clearer
>
> > pronunciation, IMHO. So Frank's initial idea is not bad. Would be
> great to
>
> > find someone who would like to do that.
>
> >
>
> > much metta,
>
> >
>
> > Lennart
>
> >
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