Hi Peter,
Reciting dhp sounds like a good idea. I remember a few years ago someone had a list of the most frequently used pali words. Is that list in our archives? We could build an audio dictionary like what worldtipitaka did. Then it would be easy to write a program to speak any pali phrase. It would sound like a gps nav device reading street name directions, but what a wonderful upgrade over having nothing.
On Oct 15, 2010 3:57 AM, Peter Hauer <linguasoft@...> wrote:
Hi Frank,
Thanks for your offer. I'll check the agenda and will keep you posted. It may be
that we get support by a local (Austrian) sponsor which can aggregate the
critical mass to initiate this project and keep the thing rolling. My personal
preference was recording Dhammapada first in order to generate a Kindle audio
book (alongside with translations into several Western languages) which may
generate additional funds for the "academic" part of this project.
Regards,
Peter
--- On Tue, 10/12/10, frank <fcckuan@...> wrote:
From: frank <fcckuan@...>
Subject: Re: Pali Pronunciation {Re: [Pali] audio tipitaka?}
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 2:05 PM
Hi Peter,
I'm willing to chip in some money for the budget. I can also
contribute time to help digitize the recorded data if help is needed in
that area. We can put together a wish list of sutta excerpts in order
of priority. I personally would like to see the 16 steps of anapanasati,
the 4 jhanas, their similes, the 4 immaterial attainments, the 6 higher
knowledges and their similes from [DN 2], some excerpts that would
include at least brief mention of 4 noble truths, noble eightfold path,
37 aids to enlightenment, so at least all the important buddhist words
have a correct pali pronunciation covered.
-Frank
On 10/11/2010 7:27 AM, Peter Hauer wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have a contact with the monks from Thotagamuwa Rajamaha Viharaya*
> (they are
> sponsored by our charity organization for tsunami victims,
> www.istuti.org) and
> may ask them if they are ready to assist with creating an audio
> version of
> (parts of) the Pali Canon. I plan to go there in winter and can carry a
> high-quality audio recording device with me. It would be great to know
> who else
> may want to join in this project, and which sections of the Pali Canon
> should be
> given preference. Is there a possibility of funding, partially at least?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Peter E. Hauer
> Vienna, Austria
>
> *)
>http://www.hikkaduwanet.com/most_important_places/thotagamuwa_ancient_buddhist_temple/
>/
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lennart Lopin <novalis78@... <mailto:novalis78%40gmail.com>>
> To: Pali@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Mon, October 11, 2010 3:02:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Pali Pronunciation {Re: [Pali] audio tipitaka?}
>
> Dear Bhante,
>
> I think the widely available paritta chantings are a bit misleading as
> they
> almost tend to be "artistic"...
>
> I'm not sure about the monks you're referring to, but generally the
> > Sri-lankans pronounces Pali quite accurately (compared to Thais and
> Burmese
> > in general), except for a few oddities. Here are some of them that I can
> > think of now:
> >
> > * Double 'g's are pronounced as a nasal guttural sound. E.g., "maggo is
> > pronounced as "mang-go". (Thais and Burmese don't do this.)
> >
> ? Never heard a Sri Lankan say "mango for maggo" :-)
>
> > * The short 'a' at the end of a word is sounded as a weak "er". E.g.,
> > "kamma" as "kammer". (Thais and Burmese don't do this.)
> >
> yes, the Thai/Burmese pronounce it almost as ā ... (from an Indian
> standpoint).
>
> > * When it comes to chanting, many of them tend to drag to last
> syllable at
> > the end of the line or sentence. (The monks of the forest tradition
> seem to
> > avoid this though. Some Thais do this sometimes, esp. at the end of the
> > chanting.)
> >
> yes, unfortunately, I think esp. the temple chanting was influenced by
> muslim (?) chanting (or some other influence), at least that what it
> sounds
> like (the dragging you mention)... a trend which seems to have crept into
> chanting in the last 50 years... A very interesting alternative is
> Dhammaruwan's
> style of
>chanting.<http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/chanting-in-the-6th-century/>
>>
>
> Also
> forest monks tend to avoid any singing style, an example for which
> would be Bhante
> Silagavesi's
>chanting<http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57
>7
>
><http://nissarana.org/index.php?option=com_rubberdoc&view=category&id=14:pali-pirith-chanting&Itemid=57>>
>>
>
> .
>
> But rather than chanting, just reading the texts gives an even clearer
> pronunciation, IMHO. So Frank's initial idea is not bad. Would be great to
> find someone who would like to do that.
>
> much metta,
>
> Lennart
>
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