Hi Nina,

<N: P.T.S. has: what profit results... A.t.tha means aim but also
<profit or benefit.

Which dictionary is the P.T.S., please? The PED?

Note that Cone's dictionary has "serves the interest, the purpose of (gen.,),
benefits" for atta.m anubhoti. The Manorathapūraṇī has a gloss on this passage
(quoted in the CPD) , saying, katama.m attha.m aaraadheti sampaadeti
paripuureti ("What purpose/benefit/aim/goal does it accomplish, obtain,
fulfill?").


Thanks for the explanation of magga-citta.

Metta, Bryan





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From: Nina van Gorkom <vangorko@...>
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, September 5, 2010 10:22:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] AN2.3 Baala Vagga (11)


Dear Bryan and Yong Peng,
Op 4-sep-2010, om 18:22 heeft Bryan Levman het volgende geschreven:

> Samatho, bhikkhave, bhaavito kamatthamanubhoti?
> <tranquility / monks / developed / why-endeavours
> <Why, O monks, does (one) endeavour developing tranquility?I
>
> attamanubhoti is an idiom meaning "to fare well, to have a (good)
> result" (PED
> s.v. attha), so I would translate something like, "What is the
> (good) result of
> tranquility that has been cultivated?" or "What is the result of
> developed
> tranquility?"
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N: P.T.S. has: what profit results... A.t.tha means aim but also
profit or benefit.
----
As to <And indeed, O monks, without greed (is) the release of the
mind, without ignorance (is) the release of wisdom.">, I am inclined
to add: being: being without greed... being without ignorance.

An addition from the commentary, in short:
The commentary explains that in this sutta citta.m bhaaviiyati, citta
that is developed, pertains to magga-citta, the lokuttara citta that
attains enlightenment. Raga is opposed to magga-citta and magga-citta
is opposed to raga.
As to vipassanaa, avijjaa is opposed to magga-pa~n~naa and magga-
pa~n~naa is opposed to avijjaa. Avijjaa is the root of vatta, the
cycle of birth and death. Magga pa~n~naa eradicates avijjaa.
The two dhammas namely maggacitta and maggapa~n~naa arise together.
N: Citta can represent the cetasika concentration. Thus, lokuttara
magga-citta is accompanied by concentration (calm) and wisdom.
As to cetovimutti, this refers to phala samaadhi, samaadhi
accompanying phalacitta, the lokuttara vipaakacitta succeeding the
magga-citta which eradicates defilements. At the moment of phalacitta
defilements have been eradicated and thus this is the greatest calm.
As to pa~n~naa-vimutti, this is freedom from avijjaa which has been
abandoned.
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Nina.

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