Thanks everyone!

It seems to me that what Yong Peng cited: permanent independent
individualistic identity, would be a kind of definition of "atta".
Would exist the pali for this phrase "permanent independent individualistic
identity". If yes, is it used to define atta?

Thanks again,
tenphel

On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Ong Yong Peng <palismith@...> wrote:

>
>
> Dear Ven. Dhammadarsa,
>
> I think "egoistic" is about "self-centredness", "self-pride",
> "selfishness", "big ego". I do not dispute that ego may be addressed by the
> Buddha in the suttas, but the term "atta" is not just "ego".
>
> "atta" may be used as a reflexive pronoun, such as "oneself", "myself",
> "ownself", etc.
>
> "atta" may also be used by the Buddha to refer to contemporary beliefs of a
> permanent independent individualistic identity, such as a soul.
>
> metta,
> Yong Peng.
>
>
> --- In Pali@yahoogroups.com <Pali%40yahoogroups.com>, Dhammadarsa wrote:
>
> In modern terminology and reflecting on my practice, greed, hatred and
> delusion, the ending of which is called Nibbaana, is the same as "ego" [as
> in egotistic] rather than "self". At times I experience an impermanent self
> that has no greed, hatred and delusion - no ego. At those times I am working
> towards the benefit of myself and others, not just myself. In the
> consideration of "myself and others", there is a self and others and the
> Buddha taught that the wholesome that we should develop [kusalassupasampadaa
> Dhammapada v 183] is defined as not harming oneself and, or others.
>
>
>


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