Dear Nina,

thank you. That is all clear now.

metta,
Yong Peng.

--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Nina van Gorkom wrote:

It is certainly good to look for special patterns in the whole of the sutta. It is striking that the 'ca' is repeated with so much emphasis. I looked it up in PED and found more meanings of 'ca'. The third meaning is conditional: if. The optative of the verb can help us too. The PTS translation has also: if.