Hi DC,

My own feeling is that when Buddha talks about
te suttantā tathāgatabhāsitā gambhīrā gambhiratthā lokuttarā suññatapaṭisaṃyuttā, (SN II, 267)

"these suttas spoken by the Tathāgata are deep, deep in meaning, supramundane, dealing with emptiness"

this is the same as Nāgārjuna's śūnyatā. How could they be different?

With Mettā,

Bryan






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From: DC Wijeratna <dcwijeratna@...>
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 11:53:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Pali] Re: Was the Buddha Obliged to Observe Vinaya Rules?, no 2.


Dear Bryan,
" This teaching is more Mahāyāna than Theravādin, ..." Could be. then it has nothing to do with the Buddha.

"These pieces were written (or better "inspired") at least 400-500 years after the historical Buddha lived, but they echo some of his own teachings on anatta and non-duality. "
Yes, some Mahaayaana texts talk about 'anatta and non-duality. But there meanings in Mahaayaana and in the teaching of the the Tathaagata are diametrically opposite.

With mettaa,

D. G. D. C. Wijeratna

P..S. I am a follower of the tathaagato araha.m sammaa sambuddho. He is my Teacher (satthaa). So what he expounded, to me, is the absolute truth. TRUTH IS ONE. It cannot be improved upon, developed or otherwise changed. So what Theravaadins or Mahaayanist have to say is totally irrelevant.

Please do remember that after 118 years of the Parininbbaana of the araha.m sammasambuddho, the community of monks split. Within the next 200 years of so, it split into 18 schools. WHICH IS TRUE? By the way there is a Sarvastivaadi abhidhamma-- complete with seven books--not only the Abhidhamma of the theravadins. And that is totally different to Theravada abhidhamma. It is reported that there is another abhidhamma 'sariputta abhidhamma' in China.

All those who got involved in sectarian Buddhism, were not-arahants- -mere puthujjanas. So none of them have a clue to the truth.

By the way, what prompted me to get involved in this discussion was: the heading: "Re: [Pali] Re: Was the Buddha Obliged to Observe Vinaya Rules?, no 2." A topic on which no disciple of the araha.m sammaasambuddho would ever talk. These people most probably haven't heard his declaration: "sabbaabhibhuu sabbavidhu hamasmi..." They dont; know that he was the Dhamma. His behaviour was what created the standard. "yo dhamma.m passati, so ma.m passati" By the way his teacher was Dhamma (See Samyutta Nikaaya)

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