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--- In Pali@yahoogroups.com, Kumâra Bhikkhu <kumara.bhikkhu@...> wrote:
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> Promoted by Frank's effort, I decided to solve an outstanding issue (as I did for MLDB by creating a sutta name index).
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> Samyutta Number Conversion Table
> http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/IF0KSzEfolg3vEgJcsM2LmLJL3KMDQ0S9XxKAL2cbpyYRmgeMfXfphz3zVpmCR_zT1RJCvzx2XX8jEVF11XRVVOeOloVl9M/Samyutta%20Number%20Conversion%20Table.pdf
> Table for easy conversion between traditional (DPR, CSCD) and modern (ATI, CBD) of samyutta numbering.
>
> This should be easier for you, Branko.
>
> Should anyone like to have the source file, which I created with OOo Calc, please feel free to ask me. While it's now in ODS format, I don't mind converting it into Excel or HTML format.
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> kb, a geek monk
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> Branislav Kovacevic wrote thus at 03:54 23/11/2009:
> >Dear Frank,
> >unfortunately I'm not able to understand your algorithm. Obviously I'm not a computer geek :)
> >but have confidence it will be useful to more computer literate ones...
> >
> >Metta
> >Branko
> >
> >
> >
> >--- On Sun, 11/22/09, frank <fcckuan@...> wrote:
> >
> >From: frank <fcckuan@...>
> >Subject: RE: [Pali] Re: how does samyutta map to DPR?
> >To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> >Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:20 PM
> >
> >Hi Branko,
> >
> > I think I understand now. This is the algorithm I came up with based on
> >the info you provided: I made a color HTML table describing the conversion
> >formula, which I uploaded to the pali files section.
> >http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EG4JS7B_xjrcMOk4A3H9IPMJ_2HtkhM9hFmhBprOTvv8v8v
> >mNon0YtDyhIepU_bSN4i-sMYBZ-vi0vf8WcWpZeT3878R/calculate_samyutta_num_in%20_D
> >PR.html .
> >
> >
> >
> >Please have a look to verify the formula is correct.
> >
> >-Frank
> >
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> >From: Pali@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pali@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> >Branislav Kovacevic
> >Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:28 AM
> >To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [Pali] Re: how does samyutta map to DPR?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Dear Frank
> >
> >Samyutta Nikaya is organized in three levels. The first is comprised of five
> >vaggas:
> >
> > 1 Sagâtha-vagga (samyuttas 1-11)
> > 2 Nidâna-vagga (12-21)
> > 3 Khandha-vagga (22-34)
> > 4 Salâyatana-vagga (35-44)
> > 5 Mah�-vagga (45-56I)
> >
> >which are comprised of samyuttas and their numbers are indicated in brackets
> >above. These samyuttas are further divided into vaggas (again, which usualy
> >have 10 suttas). Therefore in DPR you have "Book" (vaggas) dropdown menu
> >(1-5) and another three below for: samyuttas, vaggas, suttas
> >
> >Following your example of Rahogata Sutta, SN 36.11, you shoud choose Book 4
> >(Salâyatana-vagga, 35-44) and further in the three dropdown menus second
> >item, Vedana Samyutta (36), which is divided into 3 vaggas. Since you are
> >looking for 11th sutta, it will be probably in the second vagga. Therefore
> >choose Rahogatta vagga and in the last menu the first sutta is the one you
> >are looking for.
> >
> >I hope this is clear enough for you to search for other suttas too.
> >
> >Metta
> >Branko
> >
> >--- On Sun, 11/22/09, frank <fcckuan@... <mailto:fcckuan%40gmail.com>
> >com> wrote:
> >
> >From: frank <fcckuan@... <mailto:fcckuan%40gmail.com> com>
> >Subject: how does samyutta map to DPR? RE: Duroiselle (Re: Q. [Pali]
> >Dhammacakkappavattanasutta)
> >To: Pali@... <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com> com
> >Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:04 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >First,
> >
> >Thanks for the great work on DPR! It's really an awesome tool that makes
> >
> >things much easier than lugging around and flipping through lots of physical
> >
> >books. I'm hoping someone can explain how the different numbering systems
> >
> >work on the samyutta basket. I see DPR has 5 "books", each book as severl
> >
> >subdivisinos. What I'm trying to figure out is how to map the numbering
> >
> >scheme on Thanissaro's access to insight samyutta English translations to do
> >
> >a side by side comparison with DPR. The current example of what I'm trying
> >
> >to research:
> >
> >http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ sn/sn36/sn36. 011.than. html
> >
> >which has this sutta heading:
> >
> >SN 36.11
> >
> >PTS: S iv 216
> >
> >CDB ii 1270
> >
> >Rahogata Sutta: Alone
> >
> >In DPR, there I just looked through books 1 through 5 until I finally found
> >
> >rahogata sutta in book 4, under rahogata vaggo. Is that the correct sutta? I
> >
> >haven't started doing a word by word scan through DPR, but just looking at
> >
> >the rough word counts between the English sutta at ATI and the DPR version,
> >
> >the DPR version looks a lot shorter.
> >
> >In thanissaro's translation, paragraph 3:
> >
> >"And I have also taught the step-by-step cessation of fabrications. When one
> >
> >has attained the first jhana, speech has ceased. When one has attained the
> >
> >second jhana, directed thought & evaluation have ceased. When one has
> >
> >attained the third jhana, rapture has ceased. When one has attained the
> >
> >fourth jhana, in-and-out breathing has ceased. When one has attained the
> >
> >dimension of the infinitude of space, the perception of forms has ceased.
> >
> >I wanted to look up the DPR pali so I can try to track down what pali
> >
> >Thanissaro based his translation for "speech has ceased" in first jhana.
> >
> >But in general I sure would like to make some sense out of how Samyuttas are
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> >organized, and which mapping scheme corresponds with the one DPR is using.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >-Frank
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