Dear Frank,
unfortunately I'm not able to understand your algorithm. Obviously I'm not a computer geek :)
but have confidence it will be useful to more computer literate ones...
Metta
Branko
--- On Sun, 11/22/09, frank <fcckuan@...> wrote:
From: frank <fcckuan@...>
Subject: RE: [Pali] Re: how does samyutta map to DPR?
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:20 PM
Hi Branko,
I think I understand now. This is the algorithm I came up with based on
the info you provided: I made a color HTML table describing the conversion
formula, which I uploaded to the pali files section.
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EG4JS7B_xjrcMOk4A3H9IPMJ_2HtkhM9hFmhBprOTvv8v8v
mNon0YtDyhIepU_bSN4i-sMYBZ-vi0vf8WcWpZeT3878R/calculate_samyutta_num_in%20_D
PR.html .
Please have a look to verify the formula is correct.
-Frank
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From: Pali@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pali@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Branislav Kovacevic
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:28 AM
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Pali] Re: how does samyutta map to DPR?
Dear Frank
Samyutta Nikaya is organized in three levels. The first is comprised of five
vaggas:
1 Sagâtha-vagga (samyuttas 1-11)
2 Nidâna-vagga (12-21)
3 Khandha-vagga (22-34)
4 Salâyatana-vagga (35-44)
5 Mahâ-vagga (45-56I)
which are comprised of samyuttas and their numbers are indicated in brackets
above. These samyuttas are further divided into vaggas (again, which usualy
have 10 suttas). Therefore in DPR you have "Book" (vaggas) dropdown menu
(1-5) and another three below for: samyuttas, vaggas, suttas
Following your example of Rahogata Sutta, SN 36.11, you shoud choose Book 4
(Salâyatana-vagga, 35-44) and further in the three dropdown menus second
item, Vedana Samyutta (36), which is divided into 3 vaggas. Since you are
looking for 11th sutta, it will be probably in the second vagga. Therefore
choose Rahogatta vagga and in the last menu the first sutta is the one you
are looking for.
I hope this is clear enough for you to search for other suttas too.
Metta
Branko
--- On Sun, 11/22/09, frank <fcckuan@... <mailto:fcckuan%40gmail.com>
com> wrote:
From: frank <fcckuan@... <mailto:fcckuan%40gmail.com> com>
Subject: how does samyutta map to DPR? RE: Duroiselle (Re: Q. [Pali]
Dhammacakkappavattanasutta)
To: Pali@... <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:04 AM
First,
Thanks for the great work on DPR! It's really an awesome tool that makes
things much easier than lugging around and flipping through lots of physical
books. I'm hoping someone can explain how the different numbering systems
work on the samyutta basket. I see DPR has 5 "books", each book as severl
subdivisinos. What I'm trying to figure out is how to map the numbering
scheme on Thanissaro's access to insight samyutta English translations to do
a side by side comparison with DPR. The current example of what I'm trying
to research:
http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ sn/sn36/sn36. 011.than. html
which has this sutta heading:
SN 36.11
PTS: S iv 216
CDB ii 1270
Rahogata Sutta: Alone
In DPR, there I just looked through books 1 through 5 until I finally found
rahogata sutta in book 4, under rahogata vaggo. Is that the correct sutta? I
haven't started doing a word by word scan through DPR, but just looking at
the rough word counts between the English sutta at ATI and the DPR version,
the DPR version looks a lot shorter.
In thanissaro's translation, paragraph 3:
"And I have also taught the step-by-step cessation of fabrications. When one
has attained the first jhana, speech has ceased. When one has attained the
second jhana, directed thought & evaluation have ceased. When one has
attained the third jhana, rapture has ceased. When one has attained the
fourth jhana, in-and-out breathing has ceased. When one has attained the
dimension of the infinitude of space, the perception of forms has ceased.
I wanted to look up the DPR pali so I can try to track down what pali
Thanissaro based his translation for "speech has ceased" in first jhana.
But in general I sure would like to make some sense out of how Samyuttas are
organized, and which mapping scheme corresponds with the one DPR is using.
Thanks in advance.
-Frank
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