Hi Branko,

I think I understand now. This is the algorithm I came up with based on
the info you provided: I made a color HTML table describing the conversion
formula, which I uploaded to the pali files section.
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EG4JS7B_xjrcMOk4A3H9IPMJ_2HtkhM9hFmhBprOTvv8v8v
mNon0YtDyhIepU_bSN4i-sMYBZ-vi0vf8WcWpZeT3878R/calculate_samyutta_num_in%20_D
PR.html .



Please have a look to verify the formula is correct.

-Frank











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From: Pali@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Pali@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Branislav Kovacevic
Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 2:28 AM
To: Pali@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Pali] Re: how does samyutta map to DPR?





Dear Frank

Samyutta Nikaya is organized in three levels. The first is comprised of five
vaggas:

1 Sag�tha-vagga (samyuttas 1-11)
2 Nid�na-vagga (12-21)
3 Khandha-vagga (22-34)
4 Sal�yatana-vagga (35-44)
5 Mah�-vagga (45-56I)

which are comprised of samyuttas and their numbers are indicated in brackets
above. These samyuttas are further divided into vaggas (again, which usualy
have 10 suttas). Therefore in DPR you have "Book" (vaggas) dropdown menu
(1-5) and another three below for: samyuttas, vaggas, suttas

Following your example of Rahogata Sutta, SN 36.11, you shoud choose Book 4
(Sal�yatana-vagga, 35-44) and further in the three dropdown menus second
item, Vedana Samyutta (36), which is divided into 3 vaggas. Since you are
looking for 11th sutta, it will be probably in the second vagga. Therefore
choose Rahogatta vagga and in the last menu the first sutta is the one you
are looking for.

I hope this is clear enough for you to search for other suttas too.

Metta
Branko

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From: frank <fcckuan@... <mailto:fcckuan%40gmail.com> com>
Subject: how does samyutta map to DPR? RE: Duroiselle (Re: Q. [Pali]
Dhammacakkappavattanasutta)
To: Pali@... <mailto:Pali%40yahoogroups.com> com
Date: Sunday, November 22, 2009, 5:04 AM



First,

Thanks for the great work on DPR! It's really an awesome tool that makes

things much easier than lugging around and flipping through lots of physical

books. I'm hoping someone can explain how the different numbering systems

work on the samyutta basket. I see DPR has 5 "books", each book as severl

subdivisinos. What I'm trying to figure out is how to map the numbering

scheme on Thanissaro's access to insight samyutta English translations to do

a side by side comparison with DPR. The current example of what I'm trying

to research:

http://www.accessto insight.org/ tipitaka/ sn/sn36/sn36. 011.than. html

which has this sutta heading:

SN 36.11

PTS: S iv 216

CDB ii 1270

Rahogata Sutta: Alone

In DPR, there I just looked through books 1 through 5 until I finally found

rahogata sutta in book 4, under rahogata vaggo. Is that the correct sutta? I

haven't started doing a word by word scan through DPR, but just looking at

the rough word counts between the English sutta at ATI and the DPR version,

the DPR version looks a lot shorter.

In thanissaro's translation, paragraph 3:

"And I have also taught the step-by-step cessation of fabrications. When one

has attained the first jhana, speech has ceased. When one has attained the

second jhana, directed thought & evaluation have ceased. When one has

attained the third jhana, rapture has ceased. When one has attained the

fourth jhana, in-and-out breathing has ceased. When one has attained the

dimension of the infinitude of space, the perception of forms has ceased.

I wanted to look up the DPR pali so I can try to track down what pali

Thanissaro based his translation for "speech has ceased" in first jhana.

But in general I sure would like to make some sense out of how Samyuttas are

organized, and which mapping scheme corresponds with the one DPR is using.

Thanks in advance.

-Frank

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