Dear Ardavarz,

Op 2-nov-2009, om 0:04 heeft ardavarz het volgende geschreven:

> With the attainment of the three stages of knowledge, the meditator
> becomes a Sotapanna, one who initially enters the stream leading to
> Nibbana - the immortality. At this stage there arises in the
> Sotapatti Path Consciousness the Supra-mundane Eightfold Path,
> including Moral Path (Sila-magga) i.e. right speech (Samma-vaca),
> right livelihood (Samma-ajiva)."

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N: This is correct. The three factors that are siila only arise
together when the citta is lokuttara, experiencing nibbaana. At that
moment the base of wrong siila is being cut off in accordance with
the stage of enlightenment reached.
When the citta that develops the Path is still lokiya, there is not
always opportunity for abstention (then the Path is fivefold), or,
there may be an opportunity for one kind of siila at a time: right
action, right speech or right livelihood. Then the Path is sixfold.
BTW I would prefer to use the 'deathless' for nibbaana, instead of
immortality which may create confusion. People may think of eternalism.
Nina.



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